[Maelstorm]

Sometimes the "cure" is more of a risk.

[dit_xi]

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[ExTexasRedhead]

Count me out!

[varina davis]

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[allmost]

The entire purpose of an adjuvant is to create an immune response. It does this because your body assumes, correctly, that it is harmful. The risks should be weighed of course but this influenza A is simply not that deadly at this point. IMO of course. Squalene is used to induce arthritis in small mammal studies BTW.

[matthew fuller]

For what it’s worth, from WIKI: All higher organisms produce squalene, including humans. It is a hydrocarbon and a triterpene. Squalene is a natural and vital part of the synthesis of cholesterol, steroid hormones, and vitamin D in the human body [1]

[kara2008]

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[Talisker]

Most importantly, a 2006 law gives complete immunity to the pharmaceutical companies for the use of these vaccines under the conditions of “medical emergency” that has been declared for the H1N1/variants.

That’s why it’s being rushed - the “emergency” is used not only to force mass innoculations, but also to invoke the legal immunity law for the vaccine makers.

Which means, of course, that there is zero money put into safety testing. After all, what’s the point if they can’t be sued? Instead, the results of the mass inocculations will BE the “safety testing.”

[LucyJo]

The sickest I’ve been with a virus was after I had taken the only flu shot I’ve ever taken. I’ll never do it again.

[Sprite518]

I am not taking it. I’ll take that risk.

[Condor51]

I'm not anti vaccine, I'm anti Flu Vaccine.
I got two Flu Shots in my life. Both times I got sick.

So if the goobermint is going to make these H1NI shots 'mandatory', and under threat of detention and relocation, they better recall the 101st and 82nd Airborne Divisions from Afghanistan first 'cause I AIN'T gettin' one.

[AFPhys]

Well, If I have to have an adjuvant, give me ethylene glycol. All I have to do to keep that from hurting me is to stay drunk for a day or so. The others I have no idea what’ll cure me.

[CottShop]

From what I understand, the risk of getting Guilliane Barre (sp?) is reduced after getting hte swine flu shot- not increased- someone put hte stats up on another thread, and it appeared that we would actually have less of a chance of getting Barre than if we did nothing

[mysterio]

So what are the risks of the swine flu vaccines? It depends on who you ask.

Yes, it depends on whether you ask a scientist who has studied vaccines and immunology, or if you ask a foaming at the mouth blogger intent on spreading hysterical hyperbole.

The risks of the injected vaccine is GBS at the rate of one case per million doses. There is also the risk of an allergic reaction if you happen to be allergic to albumen (egg white.) It's not recommended that people with such an allergy get the injected vaccine.

From what I've seen in reports, squalene will not be included in all doses of the vaccine. I saw a report yesterday that there are two batches, one in ten dose vials and one in single vials. One of them does not contain it. If you're concerned about that, you can ask for a dose without it.

If you're an anti-vaccine zealot, you also run the risk of having someone post on all your threads that the flu kills 34,000 plus and causes the hospitalization of 200,000 plus in the United States alone. So the benefits of getting vaccinated far outweigh the risks.

The H1N1 is being tested right now and has been for a while. It will be released in mid October.

My advice? If you are really that scared of it, don't get it. I sincerely doubt the stormtroopers are goign to kick in your door and force you to get vaccinated, regardless of what you read on the internet. Also, there's no multi-national corporate conspiracy plotting around a large round oak table in Europe with the single minded goal of giving you GBS for their own fun and profit.

On the other hand, if you want some level of protection against the flu, get the shot.

Much of the mortality of this flu hinges on whether it causes cytokine storms, a serious immune overreaction in a localized area like the lungs that results from certain types of antigens. This is why the 1918 flu killed so many with healthy immune systems. It is still unclear whether prevailing strains of H1N1 cause cytokine storms.

Anyway, good luck and happy blogging.

[TeknoBeck]

A friend sent me this....from our gov't... FDA