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Democrats say GOP wants to kill Medicare [I want to kill Medicare]
The Boston Globe ^ | 2009-09-04 | Foon Rhee

Posted on 09/05/2009 10:43:52 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

Republicans have their senior's bill of rights, trying to win the elderly to their side in the health care debate.

Democrats retaliated this evening with a new TV ad that accuses the GOP of wanting to kill Medicare, the main government health program for seniors.

The Democratic National Committee cited a vote earlier this year in the House in which 137 Republicans voted for a budget proposal offered by the Republican leadership that the DNC says would have ended Medicare for Americans under age 55. Instead, the proposal called for younger workers to enroll in private plans and receive subsidies equal to the average Medicare benefit.

"Republicans want to end Medicare," the announcer says in the spot. "You heard right, Republicans actually voted to abolish Medicare for future generations -- one of the most important programs for seniors."

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; gop; healthcare; medicare
Stop trying to ram Medicare down the throats of younger Americans.
1 posted on 09/05/2009 10:43:53 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: Impy; darkangel82; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; qam1; sickoflibs; bamahead; djsherin

Holy toledo. The Republicans finally got one right!


2 posted on 09/05/2009 10:44:27 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (May God save the American Republic.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Conservatives may want to kill Medicare...Democraps want to kill Medicare RECIPIENTS...


3 posted on 09/05/2009 10:47:50 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Integrity is the lifeblood of democracy. Deceit is a poison in it." - Ted Kennedy (D-HELL)
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To: jessduntno
Conservatives may want to kill Medicare...Democraps want to kill Medicare RECIPIENTS...

And there it is.

4 posted on 09/05/2009 10:48:25 AM PDT by Sister_T
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To: rabscuttle385
SSA- Social Security(including medicare) is PURE socialism.. not like pure socialism but it is absolutely PURE SOCIALISM..

Most republicans are indeed socialists..

5 posted on 09/05/2009 10:51:23 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: rabscuttle385
I sure HOPE THEY WANT TO KILL MEDICARE! Medicare was NOT supposed to be MANDATORY....now it is! I do NOT WANT TO HAVE TO BE on Medicare when I reach 65.....I want my OWN INSURANCE.
6 posted on 09/05/2009 10:52:29 AM PDT by goodnesswins (George Orwell would be proud. Truth are lies, Slavery is Freedom, Oppression is Feminism.)
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To: rabscuttle385

They have to blatantly lie to win support. Pathetic.


7 posted on 09/05/2009 10:54:25 AM PDT by freespirited (The only thing growing faster than the deficit is Chris Matthews' man crush on Obama -- Tim Pawlenty)
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To: rabscuttle385

What Republicans? I’d like to shake that invisible hand....


8 posted on 09/05/2009 10:55:38 AM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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To: rabscuttle385
They tried this scare back in 95 when they took Mr. Newt's comments totally out of context, remember John Lewis on the Floor? "They're coming for the old! They're coming for the poor! They're coming for the chil'ren!!"

Tell a lie, repeat it often, etc., etc., etc.

10 posted on 09/05/2009 10:58:30 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: MozarkDawg

I was thinking the same thing: “Die on the vine...”


11 posted on 09/05/2009 11:01:21 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: rabscuttle385

No you fools the people of this country is trying to kill medicare not the RINOS in Washington..Get the picture scum bags we are not stupid you are..


12 posted on 09/05/2009 11:03:27 AM PDT by PLD
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To: rabscuttle385
End new enrolments t Medicare for anyone now under 50 or 52. End any mandatory features of Medicare. Do something analogous for Medicade. If the subject were to come up in COngress with only the choices of killing it altogether immediately or leving it alone I would have to vote for killing the beast immediately. I say this as one very close to the Medicare age who has not much resources for medical care. I feel that my "declining" years would be better if government medicine simply ceased for all but service connected vets, and if our "insurance" system were to have a couple of changes in it, primarily to remove the tax advantage of employer provided insurance altogether. If we could do these things and go to loser pays for tort reform, medical costs in this country could easily decline by two thirds.
13 posted on 09/05/2009 11:35:22 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: rabscuttle385

This is their ploy to get seniors on their side. Tell them the GOP want to take away the medicare. Social Security will be next.


14 posted on 09/05/2009 11:37:52 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: rabscuttle385

and obama wants to kill Americans....


15 posted on 09/05/2009 11:38:38 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: goodnesswins

“Medicare was NOT supposed to be MANDATORY....now it is!”

It’s always been mandatory!


16 posted on 09/05/2009 11:42:26 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed

NOT TRUE.....


17 posted on 09/05/2009 11:45:18 AM PDT by goodnesswins (George Orwell would be proud. Truth are lies, Slavery is Freedom, Oppression is Feminism.)
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To: dalereed
http://seniorjournal.com/NEWS/2000%20Files/Aug%2000/FTR-08-04-00MedCarHistry.htm

There was an article here on FR a couple a weeks ago (or more) about it.....you can apologize now. Your language is despicable.

19 posted on 09/05/2009 11:56:49 AM PDT by goodnesswins (George Orwell would be proud. Truth are lies, Slavery is Freedom, Oppression is Feminism.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Democrats retaliated this evening with a new TV ad that accuses the GOP of wanting to kill Medicare, the main government health program for seniors.

The Dems have been telling seniors this for decades....every week before an election.

21 posted on 09/05/2009 12:03:50 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: hosepipe
When you turn 65 your choice of insurance is Medicare or nothing!

You going to be a socialist or refuse it and have no coverage? Just curious.

22 posted on 09/05/2009 12:07:13 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Medicare is bankrupt. And it will continue to consume more and more of the federal budget. By 2014, 45% of all Medicare costs will be paid by the General Fund.


23 posted on 09/05/2009 12:11:12 PM PDT by kabar
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To: goodnesswins

The problem is that your own insurance will consider Medicare to be your primary insurance. They will not want to pay for something that Medicare will pay for.


24 posted on 09/05/2009 12:12:47 PM PDT by kabar
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To: rabscuttle385

They are nuts! It is the democrats through this healthcare reform bills that plan to kill Medicare, not the republican’s! Of course never let facts get in the way of retoric!


25 posted on 09/05/2009 12:15:17 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: kabar

YES...I know...that’s why we need to RID OURSELVES of MEDICARE! It’s socialism pure and simple.


26 posted on 09/05/2009 12:15:32 PM PDT by goodnesswins (George Orwell would be proud. Truth are lies, Slavery is Freedom, Oppression is Feminism.)
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To: goodnesswins

With 45 million on Medicare now and the number of Americans 65 or older expected to increase to one in five by 2030 (or twice the number of today), I seriously doubt that we will be getting rid of Medicare anytime soon.


27 posted on 09/05/2009 1:05:40 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

UH...we’ll get rid of it one way or the other.....because it won’t be able to survive!


28 posted on 09/05/2009 1:39:26 PM PDT by goodnesswins (George Orwell would be proud. Truth are lies, Slavery is Freedom, Oppression is Feminism.)
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To: socialismisinsidious


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29 posted on 09/05/2009 2:38:14 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: lonestar
[ You going to be a socialist or refuse it and have no coverage? Just curious. ]

I'm already a socialist.. i.e. +65...

I just admit it.. Don't want to be but the democrats forced the issue long long ago.. SAA was not designed to be socialist but the democrats stole the "trust fund".. which was under funded to begin with.. SAA was supposed to be an invested trust..

30 posted on 09/05/2009 2:48:06 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
I am forced to have it also....and I have to pay for it!...ABOUT $550 PER MONTH IS WHAT THEY CHARGE FOR MEDICARE.

I guess that means I'm not a socialist. LOL!

31 posted on 09/05/2009 3:33:55 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Doesn’t the DEMOCRAT plan in the House contain cuts to Medicare? I seem to remember reading that it does.


32 posted on 09/05/2009 3:45:01 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: kalee

Yes, to one part, Medicare Advantage I think....$500 BILLION in cuts...


33 posted on 09/05/2009 4:10:29 PM PDT by goodnesswins (George Orwell would be proud. Truth are lies, Slavery is Freedom, Oppression is Feminism.)
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34 posted on 09/05/2009 6:23:57 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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Conservatives may want to kill Medicare...Democraps want to kill Medicare RECIPIENTS...

BINGO!!!
And...
Bears Repeating!!

Ding! Ding! Ding!
We Have A Winner For......
"Quote Of The Day!"

35 posted on 09/05/2009 8:00:17 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: goodnesswins

It will survive in some form or another. I think it will be means tested and benefits will be reduced. Right now Medicare reimbursement rates are about 70% of market rates, which is why some doctors don’t accept Medicare patients and why nine out of ten Medicare recipients have private, supplementary insurance.


36 posted on 09/06/2009 5:01:53 AM PDT by kabar
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To: rabscuttle385

Phase it out!


37 posted on 09/06/2009 10:53:42 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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