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College for $99 a Month (Online Education Could Be Catastrophic for Universities)
Washington Monthy ^ | September / October 2009 | Kevin Carey

Posted on 09/05/2009 11:01:56 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: who knows what evil?
Now if we could replace public schools with online education...cut our damn property taxes by 60 to 70 %...sweet!"

That's what the government should be doing in a republic, taking advantage of every new technology to reduce the cost of government and give more responsibility back to citizens when centralization is no longer helpful for one task or another. Give people back their damn lives and quit trying to pretend that the imbeciles in government know what's best for everybody.

Just like the friggin "health care" crap, you'd think that an honest to God insurance policy purchased for each citizen at the time of their birth would solve the whole health care issue. Noooo, we need a new bunch of agencies, panels, decisions on who should be taken out and shot, and lots of other crap. Do you have any idea what kind of gold plated policy you could get each citizen for 1/10 the kinds of money these people are talking about? And I mean everybody, not just the currently uninsured.

You're right about the schools for sure. We're paying through the nose for buildings, employees, support personnel, transport personnel, food service personnel, and all those hundreds of thousands of folks get regular retraining, up training, and paper training. There's a superior solution sitting in nearly every home and for those who don't have one, giving them one costs less than having a Phd wipe his butt.

Unfortunately, there's no way to pretend that the geeks who keep a network up for others to use to educate themselves need bimonthly trips to exotic destinations for a conference on, "how to effectively communicate the proper narrative to people who have deformed left index fingers". Make people available online or even some evenings or afternoons for those that need extra help. This "unionized educators" is an oxymoron if there ever was one, they can't teach anything except extortion and they're so stupid extortion that they're choking the goose to death. How can they call themselves, "educators" if they're so stupid themselves that they didn't realize they pricing themselves out of work?

I hope things have festered to the point that everyone knows how bad it is and helps lance this infected carbuncle we call "the federal government". Otherwise, it's going to be really ugly when it bursts and people are killing one another to avoid the oozing slime.

Regards

51 posted on 09/05/2009 12:46:31 PM PDT by Rashputin (blif)
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To: Frantzie

“I also hope the Internet can continue to expand to home schooling...”

Homeschoolers have been using online and other forms of distance learning for years. e.g. AOP, Escondido Tutorial Services, BJUP and ABEKA DVD and satellite based products, Seven Star Academy, Texas Tech online. There are many beyond these examples.


52 posted on 09/05/2009 12:49:21 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Pedrobud

That’s exactly what I was thinking. This would mean a more conservative America.


53 posted on 09/05/2009 1:06:42 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: livius

One of my kids is dyslexic. We tried everything from intensive home attention, private tutors, special classes... you name it. He took an online Sylvan course and that changed everything. For him, it was much more effective than the a one-on-one tutor using the same curriculum.


54 posted on 09/05/2009 1:09:40 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: nickcarraway

It seems there’s enough upside in the business model that Straightline could just buy a small respected college and fold their business in.


55 posted on 09/05/2009 1:17:37 PM PDT by 5by5
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To: nickcarraway
The bricks and mortar crowd will hold this off with the accreditation racket for a while. The only saving grace for them is that the textbook racket is not harmed.

An online education CAN be much more rigorous than the classroom and your efforts are very measurable. The ability to timeshift, take classes while on business travel, and really collaborate with your classmates makes this very effective if the instructor is on the ball.

56 posted on 09/05/2009 1:31:36 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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To: nickcarraway

Ping


57 posted on 09/05/2009 2:07:50 PM PDT by phs3 (FUBO)
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To: Domandred

ditto :)


58 posted on 09/05/2009 2:23:36 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Crolis
The cash cow under threat here is the commodity lower-level course taught from a textbook by a graduate student or post-doc instructor. These courses are taught at low cost and make lots of money. Losing them may put significant price pressure on universities forcing them to cut back on research funding.

It seems inevitable that the market will eventually erode this market, which might tank these institutions as research organizations anyway. Research funding will probably be cut before administrative funding is, anyway.

Full disclosure: I run a business that teaches how to learn chinese online. I'd be happier not to have to compete with subsidized public courses in my own industry, but am not sure how I'd feel about this playing out in fields like medicine.

59 posted on 09/05/2009 4:52:29 PM PDT by trevelyan22
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To: nickcarraway

hmmmmm I only graduated 3rd grade


60 posted on 09/05/2009 5:04:18 PM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: Rashputin; nickcarraway

Eventually things like this will hit the liberals in the wallet. Then watch them move to pass laws making it illegal or impossible to get online degrees.

They’ve tried to do it with talk radio, the Internet or any innovation by the marketplace. Regulation and taxation are just methods of control.


61 posted on 09/05/2009 7:27:51 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: nmh

Testing is overrated. When I was in school there was massive cheating, particularly on the part of fraternities. This skewed grades and hurt all the students.

The current educational model is outmoded just like the media model.

The market demands one thing - ability to deliver. Merit rules the day in the end.


62 posted on 09/05/2009 7:31:06 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: PapaBear3625

Very good observations, but try convincing the public that accredation isn’t necessary.

Their uncle Louie helped them install their plumbing, but watch them freak out if you eliminate licensing requirements for plumbers.

I mean someone without a license might just install someone’s plumbing (except for me and uncle Louie, you can trust us).


63 posted on 09/05/2009 7:36:49 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 5by5
"It seems there’s enough upside in the business model that Straightline could just buy a small respected college and fold their business in."

You think like an investment banker.

64 posted on 09/05/2009 8:25:50 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: Domandred

same here, bmflr


65 posted on 09/05/2009 10:46:04 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Publius6961

The upper tier colleges are worth the tuition because of the contacts you make, interactions with your peer group, and athletic training and facilities.

They are also a “half way house” between living with mom and becoming an adult.

Tuition at state schools is about 11000 a year with another 12k for room and board. At the elite private schools, tuition is about 22-30k.

Compare this to public high schools at about 12k per student and you will see college is a pretty good deal.

It is k-12 that is the rip off.

Some examples of why physically going to college is important are Bill and Hillary Clinton, Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson (Dallas Cowboys superbowls), William Hewlett and David Packard, Sergei Brin and Larry Paige (Google), Sandra O’Connor and John O’Connor.


66 posted on 09/06/2009 9:05:14 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: nickcarraway

Very good article. Transforming colleges that have been occupied by domestic terrorists will be revolutionary.


67 posted on 09/07/2009 5:21:53 AM PDT by listenhillary (We became community organizers and Obama and the Statists get p*ssed off at us?)
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