Panic in D.C. ? Justice urges birth suit tossed

WorldNetDaily ^ | SEPTEMBER 07, 2009 | WorldNetDaily

[SeaHawkFan]

If the judge rules that this action is against Obama in his personal capacity, there would be no attorney-client privilege. If so, the petitioners should be able to obtain the records of communications between the DoJ and Obama and his representatives.

[thecodont]

So, why do you suppose Cheney did not call for any objection?

[El Gato]

Their arguments are fairly sound. There is no judicial mechanism in the Constitution to remove a sitting POTUS.

If he's not eligible, he's not a sitting POTUS, nor a standing one either. He's a usurper. If born outside the US, doesn't matter where, and his parents were legally married in that location, he's probably an illegal alien, although possibly a naturalized citizen.

Besides, if he's found to be ineligible, even this Congress will fall all over themselves rushing to get him impeached, and removed from office, even though that procedure only applies to Presidents, not ineligible usurpers.

[Tennessee Nana]

How could they appeal ???

It would not be injurous to Barry Dunhan-Soetoro to show his long form BC...

It is in the interests of the country at large...

and he did swear to protect and defend the constitution and the nation...

If he objected and appealed he would be going against what he swore to do...

Any attorneys in the house ???

Do i know what I am saying ???

[SeaHawkFan]

Another issue about the DoJ moving to dismiss the case because it was filed after Obama took office it that until he was sworn into office, there was no cause of action for a petition in the form of quo warranto because he was not yet sworn in.

The DoJ is grasping at straws and we need to pray that Judge Carter will have to courage forcethe DoJ lawyers to withdraw from the case since this action is against Obama in his personal capacity.

[SpaceBar]

Below is an interesting excerpt from this thread posted a few months ago regarding a report about Obama's eligibility written by a retired CIA officer.

The irresponsible confirmation in the Senate of the irresponsible tallying of votes in the Electoral College does not supersede the clear meaning of Article II, Section 1. If it is allowed to stand, disregard of the Constitution by all branches of the government would be openly established. To all who believe that the Constitution is the government’s basic law, that the Constitution is the only instrument that gives the enactments of Congress and the commands of the Executive validity, it will be clear that the rule of law in the United States is a fiction.

[El Gato]

He’s POTUS and his interests are probably being handled by the Office of the Solicitor General.

He's not being served as POTUS, look at the filings. However SecState Clinton, VP and Senate President Biden, and others are being sued in their official capacities. Thus the DOJ may be representing them, not the Obamas (Senora Obama is also named in the suit).

Did DOJ represent Clinton against Paula Jones? No, he was represented by a team from Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom, lead by Robert S. Bennett

[Deo volente]

If he’s not even legitimately in office, he cannot really be impeached. Also, isn’t impeachment reserved for “high crimes and misdemeanors”? This seems to be a question of eligibility, and not a crime per se.

He would have to be removed through some other means.

Just my opinion. I’m no scholar.

[cynwoody]

Right now we are punished with Stanley Ann’s baby..

Someone should have told Roman Polanski: It's "Stanley Ann", not "Rosemary"!

[woofie]

Does he have 5 toes ?

[Windflier]

Thank you for enlightening me, and all the rest of the laymen here, on the more arcane aspects of legal procedure. We rely on Freepers with legal educations to help us understand these things.

All I want is the truth to be revealed about Obama’s eligibility. Given the extraordinary lengths he’s gone to, to keep his original long form birth certificate under lock and key (along with all of his other personal records), it’s certain that he’s got something to hide.

What that is, we can only speculate on, but all of the circumstantial evidence to date points to those documents containing concrete evidence of his ineligibility.

I’m hoping for the judge in this case to press forward toward a revelation of the truth, just as I have in every other bc case. If we’re let down once again, the pressure on Obama to come clean will only increase.

Sooner or later, the whole country is going to have to come to grips with the fact that nothing less than full disclosure of Obama’s critical documents will end this.

[Tennessee Nana]

:)

[Walkingfeather]

figuring there are toe print patterns that can easily solve this?

[BP2]

> So, why do you suppose Cheney did not call for any objection?

Perhaps for the same reason Chief Justice Roberts "accidentally" misquoted the Oath of Office on Jan 20, and then permitted a re-administering of the Oath on Jan 21 (BTW, non-public and without the Bible as has been tradition since GW)...

... some say the "Oath of Office" flub is inconsistent with the 1st & 3rd clauses of the 20th Amendment and Art II, Clause 8 of the US Constitution ...

... but that's pure speculation — and would be for the courts to decide ...

[El Gato]

The Honorable David O. Carter Judge for the United States District Court for the Central District of California Incumbent Assumed office October 22, 1998 Nominated by Bill Clinton

Clinton is not God, and so he messes up every once and awhile. He appointed a former Marine. Which was a big time mess up. Maybe he was wee-weed that day, since Bubba was known to partake of the wacky weed.

[PeaceBeWithYou]

Article V. - All power residing originally in the people, and being derived from them, the several magistrates and officers of government, vested with authority, whether legislative, executive, or judicial, are their substitutes and agents, and are at all times accountable to them.

[El Gato]

They will appeal it if Carter says it is show me time.

I'm not sure they can appeal an order to the Director of Health Statistics of the State of Hawaii to produce a certified copy of the long form BC directly to the court.

But I suppose they can appeal whatever they want. Good luck getting a stay on that order though.

[rolling_stone]

objections have to be in writing signed by at least one member of the house and one of the senate, I guess two real patriots could not be found.

[Tennessee Nana]

Article V. - All power residing originally in the people, and being derived from them, the several magistrates and officers of government, vested with authority, whether legislative, executive, or judicial, are their substitutes and agents, and are at all times accountable to them.
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There’s our standing...

[Deo volente]

Obama continues to refuse to provide the media with school records, passports, college theses, law school records, law firm clients, medical records, Illinois State Senate files, and other documents about his record:
           

Original vault copy (long form) birth certificate – not released

Certificate of live birth (short form) – alleged forgery released
Dunham-Obama marriage license – not released
Dunham-Soetoro marriage license – not released
Soetoro adoption records – not released
Besuki School application – obtained
Punahou School records – not released
Selective Service Registration – alleged forgery released
Occidental College records – not released
Passport (Indonesian) – not released
Passport (U.S.) – not released
Columbia University records – not released
Columbia University thesis – not released

Harvard Law School records – not released
Harvard Law Review articles – none released
Baptism certificate – none released

Medical records – not released (except for a one-page statement saying Obama is healthy)
Illinois State Senate records – not released
Illinois State Senate schedule – not released (alleged to have been lost)
Law practice client list and billing records – not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles –  none released (and none perhaps ever written)

Campaign donor analysis – not released
List of all campaign workers who are lobbyists – not released
List of trips outside the United States before 2008 – not released

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