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Shocker! Judge orders trial on eligibility issue
WND ^ | 9/8/09 | staff

Posted on 09/08/2009 2:15:45 PM PDT by pissant

A California judge today tentatively scheduled a trial for Jan. 26, 2010, for a case that challenges Barack Obama's eligibility to be president based on questions over his qualifications under the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

If the case actually goes to arguments before U.S. District Judge David Carter, it will be the first time the merits of the dispute have been argued in open court, according to one of the attorneys working on the issue.

In a highly anticipated hearing today before Carter, several motions were heard, including a resolution to long-standing questions about whether attorney Orly Taitz properly served notice on the defendants, which she had.

In a second ruling, Carter ordered that attorney Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation can be added to the case to represent defendants Wiley Drake and Markham Robinson, who had been removed by an earlier court order. Drake, the vice presidential candidate for the American Independent Party, and Robinson, the party's chairman, were restored as plaintiffs.

But the judge did not immediately rule on Taitz' motion to be granted discovery – that is the right to see the president's still-concealed records. Nor did Carter rule immediately on a motion to dismiss the case, submitted by the U.S. government, following discussion over Taitz' challenge to the work of a magistrate in the case.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Extended News
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; communistcoup; larrysinclairlsover; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; orlytaitz; truthers
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To: fso301

I don’t know about all the instances of where he had to swear to never having used another name or alias but in the case of his law license, I think the question meant had he ever been licensed under a different name.

nope
https://www.ibaby.org/savebrowseform.action

Have you ever been known by any other first, middle or last name?


221 posted on 09/08/2009 5:24:56 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

;)


222 posted on 09/08/2009 5:24:59 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: ComeOnNow

I find it odd that so many on these boards claim to know the ins and outs of federal law, particular constitutional law and what the Constitution requires, yet do not know the basics on trial practice and motions practice...
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You may have a point as to relative experience or inexperience with reference to specific legal process, as many of us do have other day jobs, but I find it interesting that you could make such definitive statements about all 300,000+ Freepers from your one day trial membership here. (pun intended.)...:) Welcome...

Whether or not the motions and Carter’s orders will pan out the way many of us would like, does remain to be seen.

But at the least, we can be intrigued with this development, which takes this sort of case further than any other case like it has been so far.


223 posted on 09/08/2009 5:25:56 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: pissant

before even reading the materials.
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Hey, that sounds like how Congress and the POTUS handle major legislation...


224 posted on 09/08/2009 5:28:38 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: fso301

Has the Illinois State Bar investigated Obama?

Authorization

I , ____________________________________ , born at _____________________________, ___________________ , on
Name City State
____________________________ , having filed an application for admission to the bar of Illinois, do hereby consent to have
Date of Birth
an investigation made by or on behalf of the Illinois Board of Admissions to the Bar, State of Illinois, and/or any of the several
Character and Fitness Committees of the State of Illinois as to my moral character, reputation and fitness for the practice of
law. I agree to give any further information which may be required in reference to my past record.
I also authorize and request every person, firm, company, corporation, financial institution, governmental agency,
court, association, bar admissions or disciplinary authority, or educational or other institution, including, without limitation,
colleges, universities, and law schools, having control of any documents, records and other information pertaining to me, to
furnish to the Illinois Board of Admissions to the Bar for subsequent use by the Character and Fitness Committees or directly
to any Character and Fitness Committee, any such information, including documents, records, files regarding charges or
complaints filed against me either as a juvenile or as an adult, formal or informal, pending or closed, dismissed, expunged or
sealed, or any other pertinent data, and to permit the Illinois Board of Admissions to the Bar and/or a Character and Fitness
Committee, or any of their agents or representatives, to inspect and make copies of such documents, records and other
information. I understand and agree that all documents, records and other information furnished to the Illinois Board of
Admissions to the Bar and/or to any Character and Fitness Committee are privileged and confidential, and that the
furnishing of such documents, records and other information, and the contents thereof, shall not be the basis of any suit by me
or on my behalf in law or equity


225 posted on 09/08/2009 5:30:09 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: rolling_stone; mojitojoe; fso301

My question is more a legal one. If he became Soetoro, can he reappear magically someday as Obama without legally changing it back. Is he really Obama anymore?


226 posted on 09/08/2009 5:31:27 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: LaybackLenny

Um, I don’t think this Marine now sitting as the Judge in this case is birbable. Stuff your accusation where it belongs, back in your nasty little brain.


227 posted on 09/08/2009 5:33:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Proud2BeRight

That is a question I researched but did not come to a conclusion..intent to defraud may be a necessary element..


228 posted on 09/08/2009 5:35:08 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: ComeOnNow; pissant; Red Steel

ComeOnNow - you signed up today, made four comments, all about this case.

Are you fer or agin 0bama? Just wondering.


229 posted on 09/08/2009 5:35:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: pissant

And what ever became of that thought that he may have violated Illinois ethics laws (stop laughing). I read this about a year ago and it died?:
http://volokh.com/posts/1206496543.shtml


230 posted on 09/08/2009 5:37:08 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: little jeremiah

No need to wonder


231 posted on 09/08/2009 5:38:48 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Drew68

You’re new here. The Birthers invented a make-believe requirement found nowhere in the Constitution that “Natural Born” is defined as being born on U.S. soil to parents who were both American citizens.

Since Obama’s father is Kenyan, he is not “Natural Born” according to Birther mythology.
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What is a natural born citizen of the United States (and please refer to SCOTUS case law)?

It’s certainly no mythology that NBC is a US Constitutional requirement for holding the office of the POTUS.


232 posted on 09/08/2009 5:41:29 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: jessduntno
Too much? Nope, we can never ask "Why?" enough. Keep up the good work.

Why block discovery? Why not release the long form BC?

Why not release the college records?

yeah, there are a lot of answers "the Transparent One" isn't providing. We all need to ask, why?

233 posted on 09/08/2009 5:41:34 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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To: novemberslady
Perhaps that's why when reading from the teleprompter, Obama said in the speech to schoolkids today:

My mother couldn't afford to send me to the school where all the AMERICAN kids went.

"oh my"

I wonder how many American kids there were in Indonesia in the early 1970s? Enough for a whole school? If mama was so intent on homeschooling him, I wonder why Lolo Soetro adopted him (to give him cover of Indonesian citizenship) and enrolled him the local madrassa and registered him as a muslim?

234 posted on 09/08/2009 5:41:40 PM PDT by lovesdogs (9/7/09 - 1119 days left until obama is toast/420 until midterms.)
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To: Don Corleone
submitted by the U.S. government

That was my first thought. The US govt doesn't have to prove that it's eligible to be President. A private citizen should have to prove that before he's ever allowed on a ballot in any state in the union.

What a waste of taxpayer money!!

lol. but I'm being redundant.

235 posted on 09/08/2009 5:43:51 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Obama and the Dem Congress will spend $5 trillion every year of his presidency until they break US!)
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To: afnamvet

The judge is a Marine, not a libtard unless you are offering evidence that he is.
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He *was* appointed by Clinton..


236 posted on 09/08/2009 5:48:06 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: MHGinTN

The Judge is a Marine?!

Oh, thank God.


237 posted on 09/08/2009 5:53:53 PM PDT by txhurl (Obama went 1st After our Money, then after our Health, and now after our Kids. Put/keep pressure on.)
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To: jessduntno
President Obama’s defenders also said they would file a motion seeking to block any discovery of evidence at this point.

If he was born here, what's the problem???

Why all the effort to block discovery? Doesn't make sense...
238 posted on 09/08/2009 5:54:28 PM PDT by Deo volente (Obamacare: In critical condition, on life support.)
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To: Mimi3
I don’t get it. Why do you say that “Carter hasn’t tossed this case yet because Zero’s motion to dismiss has not been fully submitted to the Court for consideration”? I thought it was. What was incomplete?

Many Federal Judges routinly hold oral argument on motions to dismiss. Apparently Carter is one of them.

239 posted on 09/08/2009 5:55:22 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: novemberslady

same to ya.


240 posted on 09/08/2009 5:58:37 PM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet!)
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