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Used Car Prices Rise After "Cash for Clunkers" Program.
The Tuscaloosa News ^ | 09/08/09 | Dana Beyerle

Posted on 09/08/2009 9:21:57 PM PDT by worrywart

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To: worrywart

Poor people often can’t get a loan from an institution to buy a new car, so this ‘cash for clunkers’ thing wasn’t going to help them.

If they already own a used car, they will have a harder time finding parts for their cars because there will be less used units to build remanufactured parts from. These parts will also cost more. Supply and Demand.

If they need a car and want to buy one, oftentimes their only option would be a Used Car Dealer that ‘Totes the Note’ or advertises ‘Your Job is Your Credit.’ and short supply will end up making their costs higher through this route, as well.

Lose-Lose for everyone except those Dealers and a few people that got a steal on a cheap econobox.


21 posted on 09/08/2009 9:38:50 PM PDT by lmr (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: worrywart

I guess we could call this one, the Bigtime Cash for a Clunker program. Way to go Bammie.


22 posted on 09/08/2009 9:39:11 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare! When "natural causes" just isn't good enough!)
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To: worrywart
So the average Joe taxpayers who buys only used cars have to pay more for them on top of the $43 Billion handed out in the C4C program, that enabled others to buy new cars on our tax dollars? Boy, have the democrats screwed up this country bad!!!!!!

And now with healthcare coming, we are a goner! And do not forget about the climate bill coming up next, then freebies for the illegals to become American citizens, robbing our Social Security and Medicare systems blind, with hardly any contribution having been made by them!

23 posted on 09/08/2009 9:39:17 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: worrywart

Go figure......


24 posted on 09/08/2009 9:42:29 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: worrywart
There has never, ever, in the entire economic history of mankind, been a more spectacular demonstration of the Broken Window Fallacy than Cash for Clunkers.

Ten thousand years from now, economics textbooks will mock the ignorance of President Barack Obama and his pathetic band of tax cheats and Communists.

25 posted on 09/08/2009 9:43:15 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: worrywart

Entirely predictable. In a downtrending economy, people want less expensive vehicles, less debt. If that means burning a little more gas, oh well, pay as you go. Crushing a million running used cars puts a dent in the market, so sure the price is going up, as will the cost of maintaining them (with the used parts from a million vehicles crushed too).


26 posted on 09/08/2009 9:46:16 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Rembrandt

My Accord turned three yesterday. I’ll keep it til The One is The History.
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Yes, Freedom will prevail! Take care of your car.


27 posted on 09/08/2009 9:46:50 PM PDT by unkus
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To: worrywart

Wow, who’d have thunk it...


28 posted on 09/08/2009 9:47:25 PM PDT by greatplains
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To: lmr

Spent thirty+ years in the business and this is precisely what I said was going to happen. This is what happens when people who have never run a lemonade stand think they can run a business or a country.


29 posted on 09/08/2009 9:47:40 PM PDT by JayVee (Joseph)
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To: Rembrandt; unkus

You guys are making me feel bad. Maybe I should swap my little car for a doggie-friendly vehicle.


30 posted on 09/08/2009 9:48:48 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: worrywart
Over a week ago, I saw the same exact car that I have now selling for 2-3k more. I'm sure I'll get charged an arm and a leg for the parts, if it breaks down, geeeeez.
31 posted on 09/08/2009 9:51:20 PM PDT by Rickcbw
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To: worrywart

Collectivist ideas are like the 3 Stooges.
Moe sees a cord coming out of a hole in the wall. He thinks it shouldn’t be there, so he gives it a vigorous yank. On the other end is Larry, who ends up getting his head slammed against the wall by the pull.

Every time the Marxists pull over here, somebody gets his head smacked over there. But they keep on doing it, because Marxism is never wrong.

I think we need to come up with another definition of the word intellectual.


32 posted on 09/08/2009 9:52:02 PM PDT by lurk
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Yeah. NASA trumps CFC anyday.

$3b would be a nice down payment on a permanent moon base.

33 posted on 09/08/2009 9:53:08 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: worrywart

A kid at the auto shop a couple of weeks ago called it the “vehicle holocaust.” Thought it was a fitting term.


34 posted on 09/08/2009 9:53:08 PM PDT by RaiderRose (Obama has cured my husband's political apathy.)
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To: worrywart

Cash for Clunkers was a great idea. It only had a few flaws:

1. It deepened national debt.
2. It grew government, since they had to hire people to process all of the transactions.
3. It destroyed perfectly good cars, throwing billions of dollars of usable assets into the wind.
4. It endangered the wellbeing of car sellers, who may or may not get reimbursed.
5. It sucked tens of thousands of Americans into deeper debt, at a time when they ought to be scrambling to eliminate household debt.
6. It sucked tens of thousands of Americans into investing in an asset which goes down sharply in value every year, at a time when Americans ought to be investing in stable assets, like precious metals.
7. It reinforces the lie for Americans that bigger government is benign.
8. It will inevitably encumber financers and car companies, when increasingly out-of-work and underfunded buyers will have thousands of cars repossessed in the coming years. This will result in excess inventory of repo’s on lots over the next 48 months, and financers eating a bunch of accounts receiveable.
9. Buyers of new cars are now encumbered with a whopping sales tax charge and annual license renewal taxes, since states charge more taxes for new cars.
10. Buyers of new cars now have significantly higher auto insurance bills than they had formerly.
11. The removal of decent used cars from the market puts a hardship on lower income families, who are the ones who generally buy them. Now, prices are higher for used cars.
12. Following a brief spike in purchasing, demand for new cars will dip even lower than before the C-4-C program began, meaning less income for the automakers.
13. Foreign car makers score bigtime, while the union-laden Government-owned makers get pounded by the competition. See current sales data for Ford/Toyota/Honda/Mazda vs. GM/Chrysler/Fiat.

Other than that, it’s just a marvy idea. Can’t wait for the same set of realities to hit the large appliance market.


35 posted on 09/08/2009 9:53:22 PM PDT by lurk
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To: null and void

Your brain is “null and void.”

Using taxpayer money to give to people is not doing them a favor. Especially when 25% of them will end up losing their new cars to repossession.

Think before you engage your brain.


36 posted on 09/08/2009 9:54:46 PM PDT by kingpins10
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To: Pining_4_TX

Do what’s best for America, I bought a Toyota and that’s whst is best; You wop. And I love you without knowing you.


37 posted on 09/08/2009 9:57:45 PM PDT by unkus
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To: kingpins10
Where did I say anything even REMOTELY like I thought this was anything approaching a good idea?
38 posted on 09/08/2009 9:59:21 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 230 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: All

C4C is nothing more than the intentional destruction of wealth. Sorry Obama, you cannot destroy my classic car. It belongs to me!


39 posted on 09/08/2009 10:07:42 PM PDT by CaliGangsta
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To: lurk

#1 on your list should be the fact that it is creating a whole new class of citizens who are now dependent on the government and won’t make another major purchase without government incentives to do so. It’s a further significant erosion of individualism, self-reliance and freedom.


40 posted on 09/08/2009 10:10:58 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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