Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 09/13/2009 2:04:43 AM PDT by OldSpice
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: OldSpice

Not everyone gets it right all of the time.

She should have been more worried about multiculturalism and Islamasists invading her country.


2 posted on 09/13/2009 2:12:27 AM PDT by Daniel II (I'm Jim Thompson, this is my brother Jimmy, and this is my other brother Jimmy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: OldSpice

I too had mixed feelings. On the one hand East Germany was free. On the other hand, Germany had started three major wars in less than 70 years that in the end basically killed Europe.

Had those wars not occured, Europe would have had 200 million more people today (including 10 million Jews) and socialism would not have taken hold

However, you cannot blame a man for the sins of his grandfather. I don’t blame a german today for what his grandfather did. However, as Lady Thatcher correctly points out, there is something called a National Character


3 posted on 09/13/2009 2:14:38 AM PDT by SoftwareEngineer (`)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: OldSpice

It was a reasonable fear and not entirely outlandish. Fortunately she was wrong about this fear.


7 posted on 09/13/2009 3:02:47 AM PDT by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: OldSpice
Germany isn't the problem. The biggest threat to Britain is Britons. We don't have to look to the history of Rome's fall to see how an empire implodes from within. In less than a hundred years, Britain went from a world empire to a glorified third world country. I'm afraid that America is headed in the same direction.
12 posted on 09/13/2009 5:11:56 AM PDT by Nosterrex
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: OldSpice

Related discussion:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2338484/posts


13 posted on 09/13/2009 5:47:32 AM PDT by Hawthorn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: OldSpice

...I see a united Germany as Europe’s best hope to drive back Islam.


14 posted on 09/13/2009 5:59:10 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: OldSpice

...I see a united Germany as Europe’s best hope to drive back Islam.


15 posted on 09/13/2009 5:59:37 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: OldSpice

Thatccer was absolutely right on that one! Most Germans either do not want to deal with the past nor are they willing to accept responsiblity through their foreign and domestic policies.

OTOH Britain has some major problems of its own...maybe worse than Germany’s.


16 posted on 09/13/2009 6:08:04 AM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: OldSpice
I have always felt that in time, the EU with Germany being the dominant nation by far, would accomplish Germany's pre- WWII goals of European domination - without firing a shot.

The only fly in the ointment is Islam's cancerous growth throughout Europe.

17 posted on 09/13/2009 6:16:08 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: OldSpice

Some West Germans feared a united Germany.


21 posted on 09/13/2009 7:14:09 AM PDT by syriacus (Obama wants to "monologue" with us -- 24/7.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: OldSpice; SoftwareEngineer
Was Margaret Thatcher right to fear a united Germany?

In short: no.
I too had mixed feelings. On the one hand East Germany was free. On the other hand, Germany had started three major wars in less than 70 years that in the end basically killed Europe.

Which three wars? Greater Germany (i.e. Germany and Austria) started the second world war, that is true and undisputed. WWI started as a completely legitimate war on terror in which the western powers decided to side with the terrorists.

They were itching for a fight with England and used an excuse of their alliance to jump in.

So were England and France which used excuses of their own. Your statement is anecdotal, but delivers no proof for your theory.
28 posted on 09/13/2009 8:31:19 AM PDT by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: OldSpice
I believe the whole point is being missed. She wasn't unduly concerned about a reunited Germany. Like the Bushies and the "realists" of the day, she feared "instability" above all. Bush, Baker, etc. did all they could to stop the breakup of the USSR. Remember the "Chicken Kiev" speech, when he denounced Ukraine's "suicidal nationalism"?

Ironic. Today England is pretty much East Germany.

40 posted on 09/13/2009 5:19:40 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I'd rather be Plaxico Burress than Sean Taylor)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson