1 posted on
09/13/2009 2:04:43 AM PDT by
OldSpice
To: OldSpice
Not everyone gets it right all of the time.
She should have been more worried about multiculturalism and Islamasists invading her country.
2 posted on
09/13/2009 2:12:27 AM PDT by
Daniel II
(I'm Jim Thompson, this is my brother Jimmy, and this is my other brother Jimmy)
To: OldSpice
I too had mixed feelings. On the one hand East Germany was free. On the other hand, Germany had started three major wars in less than 70 years that in the end basically killed Europe.
Had those wars not occured, Europe would have had 200 million more people today (including 10 million Jews) and socialism would not have taken hold
However, you cannot blame a man for the sins of his grandfather. I don’t blame a german today for what his grandfather did. However, as Lady Thatcher correctly points out, there is something called a National Character
To: OldSpice
It was a reasonable fear and not entirely outlandish. Fortunately she was wrong about this fear.
7 posted on
09/13/2009 3:02:47 AM PDT by
SolidWood
(Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
To: OldSpice
Germany isn't the problem. The biggest threat to Britain is Britons. We don't have to look to the history of Rome's fall to see how an empire implodes from within. In less than a hundred years, Britain went from a world empire to a glorified third world country. I'm afraid that America is headed in the same direction.
To: OldSpice
13 posted on
09/13/2009 5:47:32 AM PDT by
Hawthorn
To: OldSpice
...I see a united Germany as Europe’s best hope to drive back Islam.
To: OldSpice
...I see a united Germany as Europe’s best hope to drive back Islam.
To: OldSpice
Thatccer was absolutely right on that one! Most Germans either do not want to deal with the past nor are they willing to accept responsiblity through their foreign and domestic policies.
OTOH Britain has some major problems of its own...maybe worse than Germany’s.
16 posted on
09/13/2009 6:08:04 AM PDT by
eleni121
(The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
To: OldSpice
I have always felt that in time, the EU with Germany being the dominant nation by far, would accomplish Germany's pre- WWII goals of European domination - without firing a shot.
The only fly in the ointment is Islam's cancerous growth throughout Europe.
17 posted on
09/13/2009 6:16:08 AM PDT by
elpadre
(AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
To: OldSpice
Some West Germans feared a united Germany.
21 posted on
09/13/2009 7:14:09 AM PDT by
syriacus
(Obama wants to "monologue" with us -- 24/7.)
To: OldSpice; SoftwareEngineer
Was Margaret Thatcher right to fear a united Germany?
In short: no.
I too had mixed feelings. On the one hand East Germany was free. On the other hand, Germany had started three major wars in less than 70 years that in the end basically killed Europe.
Which three wars? Greater Germany (i.e. Germany and Austria) started the second world war, that is true and undisputed. WWI started as a completely legitimate war on terror in which the western powers decided to side with the terrorists.
They were itching for a fight with England and used an excuse of their alliance to jump in.
So were England and France which used excuses of their own. Your statement is anecdotal, but delivers no proof for your theory.
28 posted on
09/13/2009 8:31:19 AM PDT by
wolf78
(Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
To: OldSpice
I believe the whole point is being missed. She wasn't unduly concerned about a reunited
Germany. Like the Bushies and the "realists" of the day, she feared "instability" above all. Bush, Baker, etc. did all they could to stop the breakup of the USSR. Remember the "Chicken Kiev" speech, when he denounced Ukraine's "suicidal nationalism"?
Ironic. Today England is pretty much East Germany.
40 posted on
09/13/2009 5:19:40 PM PDT by
Forgotten Amendments
(I'd rather be Plaxico Burress than Sean Taylor)
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