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Inside the Glorious Nation of ACORN
Townhall.com ^ | September 17, 2009 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 09/17/2009 4:49:53 AM PDT by Kaslin

I would not go see the film "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan" because I found more cruelty than humor in deliberately exposing unwitting civilians to the easy ridicule of smug sophomores.

Now the right has its own Borat-style entertainment. Equipped with a video camera, conservative activists James O'Keefe, 25, and Hannah Giles, 20, sought the answer to this question: "What if a 'prostitute' and her alleged law school boyfriend walk into ACORN seeking housing for an underage brothel to fund his future congressional campaign?"

The answer, they discovered, was that some of the folks who work at ACORN (the left-leaning Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) were overly adept at looking the other way -- even after O'Keefe and Giles told them that Salvadoran girls as young as 12 would be working as prostitutes in their brothel.

One ACORN worker told the couple they could list the under-aged prostitutes as dependents "because they live in your house, especially if they're under 16." Some organizers emphasized that it was not their job to judge others. A Baltimore worker tried to sign up the couple as dues-paying ACORN members.

ACORN has reacted by charging that the videotapes were "doctored" and charged O'Keefe and Giles with trolling for damning material. ACORN also claims the couple is not airing tape from offices where they were shown the door. The Philadelphia Daily News, for example, reported that the local ACORN office kicked out O'Keefe and Giles and filed a police report.

On Saturday, ACORN chief organizer Bertha Lewis said in a statement that she would not defend actions of the now-fired workers. She also charged that O'Keefe and Giles broke the law -- "and we will be taking legal action against Fox (News) and their co-conspirators."

But what of CNN and other new organizations that have reported on this story? The prank is paying off. On Friday, U.S. census director Robert M. Groves terminated the bureau's (nonpaying) partnership agreement with ACORN.

On Monday, the Senate voted 83-7 for a measure by Sen. Mike Johanns, R-Neb., to prohibit granting federal housing funds to ACORN. California Democratic Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer -- yes, Barbara Boxer -- voted for the measure.

This is progress. As recently as March, however, the Senate tabled an amendment banning federal funding for ACORN -- which has received $53 million directly from Uncle Sam since 1994 -- despite several state investigations into ACORN voter registration. Last year, ACORN was forced to acknowledge that election officials rejected 400,000 of the 1.3 million people the group had tried to register.

Congress should pass a measure ending federal funding for ACORN, and President Obama, who represented ACORN in a 1995 lawsuit, should sign it.

But I won't join those who are hailing the enterprising O'Keefe and Giles for doing the sort of work "60 Minutes" should have done. But there was so little fact-checking in this exercise that Fox News' Glenn Beck ran a video in which a San Bernardino ACORN organizer said she had killed her husband -- when she had not.

Conservatives, beware. Any activist can grab a camera, head for a church or a campaign, and record some stupid quotes. When they do -- and they will -- the right will complain that it is wrong to brand a cause by the careless comments of a handful of disciples.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: hannahgiles

1 posted on 09/17/2009 4:49:53 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Amazing audio of ACORN workers advising how to set up under-aged prostitution operation to 'look like' a small school, being "OK" with "induced sexual violence" (on the kids) in order to create higher profits, AND confessing to a supposed murder!

The part on the under-aged prostitution ring begins about 5 minutes into the 35 min audio segment. And it continues on at about 11 mins into it (following other news).

http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/MediaPlayer/AudioPlayer.aspx?ContentGuid=8e38a801-07a5-41be-b6a1-fac443716e71

2 posted on 09/17/2009 4:54:04 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Kaslin
When they do -- and they will -- the right will complain that it is wrong to brand a cause by the careless comments of a handful of disciples.

Wrong! If a huge, federally-funded right-wing organization was arranging loans for paedophile brothels we would want them caught.

3 posted on 09/17/2009 4:55:17 AM PDT by agere_contra ('We do not need a censorship of the press. We have a censorship by the press' Chesterton.)
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To: Kaslin
Conservatives, beware. Any activist can grab a camera, head for a church or a campaign, and record some stupid quotes. When they do -- and they will -- the right will complain that it is wrong to brand a cause by the careless comments of a handful of disciples.

The left has been doing it for years. These two are using the same tactics that made Michael Moor a millionaire. And the FSM backs the liberals, and ignores the conservatives. The difference now is that the right wing has finally read rules for radicals. Turns out the rules are judgment neutral and work as well for right wing radicals as left wing radicals.
4 posted on 09/17/2009 4:57:31 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Kaslin

ACORN and Obama were spawned in the same swamp.


5 posted on 09/17/2009 4:58:01 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: agere_contra

Exactly and that is the difference between us and them


6 posted on 09/17/2009 4:58:41 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
But there was so little fact-checking in this exercise that Fox News' Glenn Beck ran a video in which a San Bernardino ACORN organizer said she had killed her husband -- when she had not.

Saunders is barking up the wrong tree here. I don't see how it was Beck's responsibility to verify that. It's just one more example of what sort of people are working for ACORN. There seem to be no limits to what some of them will say, or what advice, legal or otherwise, they will offer those who seek their help.

7 posted on 09/17/2009 5:00:10 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Kaslin
Conservatives, beware. Any activist can grab a camera, head for a church or a campaign, and record some stupid quotes.

Actually that's a good thing but lets not equate stupid comments with offering to help smuggle underage illegal alien prostitutes, tax faud, mortgage fraud, etc.
8 posted on 09/17/2009 5:00:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Kaslin
there was so little fact-checking in this exercise that Fox News' Glenn Beck ran a video in which a San Bernardino ACORN organizer said she had killed her husband -- when she had not.

Debra J. Saunders didn't watch Beck or others. Everyone said they didn't know what to make of it. Beck said law enforcement was contacted and had no comment. Showing her saying she shot her husband made the point ACORN hires lunatics whether she did kill or husband or not.

What was Beck supposed to do? Hide that part of the tape?

If he did the left would say he hid the part proving she is delusional.

What is the matter with Saunders? She's usually brighter than this.

9 posted on 09/17/2009 5:03:40 AM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: ETL
The larger story here is not that ACORN is corrupt; who didn't know that, but rather the depths to which the msm has now fallen.

The corruption @ ACORN pales in comparison to the shoddy goods being marketed by the msm, which has now been clearly exposed.

10 posted on 09/17/2009 5:03:55 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: advance_copy

Acorn is Obama.

The President is merely one of the Democrat Criminal Enterprise entities connected by a line to the center of the web of criscrossing threads of deceit and corruption.

The web and all the contents must be physically destroyed to return America as America. As long as one entity is allowed to live, it will regrow


11 posted on 09/17/2009 5:04:04 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Quotes of the century: 2001 "Lets Roll"..... 2009 "You Lie")
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To: Kaslin
Conservatives, beware. Any activist can grab a camera, head for a church or a campaign, and record some stupid quotes. When they do -- and they will -- the right will complain that it is wrong to brand a cause by the careless comments of a handful of disciples.

A strong case can be made that the two young activists established the proverbial "pattern of behavior" where ACORN is concerned. I expect that is why they visited so many ACORN offices. Isn't Saunders some sort of conservative? This is a terrible column from her. Why is she trying to diminish what was accomplished?

12 posted on 09/17/2009 5:04:28 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Kaslin

Debra got a big “but” at the end there, and she has been expressing sympathy for the devil for years. Melanie Morgan wrote her off a long time ago.


13 posted on 09/17/2009 5:04:39 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Kaslin

I wonder what you’d come up with if you went out to some of the ACORN locals posing as ACORN reps, and ask if they’ve scrubbed their paperwork and briefed the workers on what to tell the investigators.


14 posted on 09/17/2009 5:04:42 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Kaslin

Gee, Deb, just a little pouty that the right is starting to fight by the left’s rules of engagement....


15 posted on 09/17/2009 5:07:15 AM PDT by freebilly ( No wonder all the left has a boner for Obama.... There's "Cialis" in "SoCIALISt")
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To: Will88
But there was so little fact-checking in this exercise that Fox News' Glenn Beck ran a video in which a San Bernardino ACORN organizer said she had killed her husband -- when she had not.

Saunders is barking up the wrong tree here. I don't see how it was Beck's responsibility to verify that. It's just one more example of what sort of people are working for ACORN. There seem to be no limits to what some of them will say, or what advice, legal or otherwise, they will offer those who seek their help.

Yes, Beck and the couple didn't claim she had killed anyone, she said it in her own words. For this guy to claim it was Beck's responsibility to verify is like saying there was a smear done on Van Jones by using his own words against them.

Beck made a disclaimer on his show and said they couldn't confirm she had actually killed anyone. That's all he needed to do to cover his butt and the couples.

BTW, Breitbart has a document on his website(biggovernment.com)that shows there is a dead husband in her background.

Not only that, one of her recent husbands(I think she has two on record)has a restraining order out against her, gotta be a reason for that.

16 posted on 09/17/2009 5:09:51 AM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: Kaslin
But there was so little fact-checking in this exercise that Fox News' Glenn Beck ran a video in which a San Bernardino ACORN organizer said she had killed her husband -- when she had not.

The fact is she said it, talked about it, confessed it...and it was a falsehood? If she hadn't killed her husband, if I were him I'd be watching my back. How many other young girls has she given the murder advice too?

17 posted on 09/17/2009 5:09:52 AM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: Kaslin
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/07/interview-with-michael-mccray-of-acorn.html

Monday, July 13, 2009
Michael McCray: “No one knows how much ACORN i

EXCERPT

Q: One of the complaints we’ve heard related to funding among all of the various ACORN-related entities. What were some of the more egregious activities you saw perpetrated by top management?

A: Well the multi-million embezzlement and 8 year cover up has to lead the list of egregious illegal conduct. The embezzlement was publicly reported to be $1 million, however the board was notified that the true number was at least $5 million.

Senior Staff and the Executive Committee knew about the embezzlement and covered it up for eight years.

We believe that any participated in, benefited from or knew about and withheld information about the embezzlement from the board should be terminated and/or removed from any association with ACORN. We demanded a forensic examination and independent financial audit of ACORN and all of its related entities to ferret out the wrongdoers.

Q: Mixing of non-profit funds with those of the for-profit entities has been mentioned repeatedly as an ACORN theme. How bad is or was this situation and where do you see it leading?

A: Our position is simply this – we do not believe that the national board of directors has ever been given access to ACORN’s corporate books and financial records. Thus, no one really knows how much ACORN is actually worth and how much non-profit –vs– for profit funding has flown through ACORN unless and until there is a forensic examination and independent audit. We know that all funding flowed through Citizen’s Consulting Inc. (CCI). But CCI claims to be a private company – but it is really the financial management division of ACORN.

Ultimately, their must be a forensic examination and audit of ACORN. Otherwise know one will ever know for sure how much went into ACORN, how much money was co-mingled at ACORN or how much money was embezzled from ACORN. It’s just that simple.

18 posted on 09/17/2009 5:12:27 AM PDT by maggief (He had a dream. We got a nightmare!)
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To: Kaslin

She sounds mad because she didn’t think of this herself.


19 posted on 09/17/2009 5:12:45 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Kaslin
Conservatives, beware. Any activist can grab a camera, head for a church or a campaign, and record some stupid quotes. When they do -- and they will -- the right will complain that it is wrong to brand a cause by the careless comments of a handful of disciples.

This isn't a couple of stupid quotes, this is a pattern done over 5 different offices now and more coming. This sting wouldn't work on some one who is honest, it isn't as if the words were taken out of context, they are caught giving illegal advice too a pimp and his hooker.

20 posted on 09/17/2009 5:13:47 AM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: Will88
A widespread and pervasive pattern of behavior. If it was only one office, sure I'd go along with the handful of fired employees, but this is more than one office all across the country.

The difference here is this group is tax payer funded. Sure any activist can shove a camera in your face and get you to sound stupid, but we're not taking tax money.

Sounding stupid and breaking the law are two totally different matters. If this was just ACORN sounding stupid, the video would have been up on youtube and we'd all be laughing about it.

21 posted on 09/17/2009 5:17:11 AM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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(WABC's) Charlie Gibson on Acorn Scandal: I Don't Even Know About It
BigGovernment.com ^ | Publius

Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:02:59 PM by ETL

This morning, the ACORN scandal was raised to Charlie Gibson in an interview on WLS AM Chicago’s “Don Wade & Roma Morning Show.”

TRANSCRIPT:

Don: Ok here’s my question, Senate bill yesterday passes cutting off funds to this group called ACORN. Now we got the…we got that bill passing, we got the embarrassing video of ACORN staff giving tax advice on how to set up a brothel with 13 year old hookers. It has everything you could want corruption and sleazy action at tax funded organizations that’s got government ties. But nobody’s covering that story why?

Charlie Gibson: (laugh) I don’t even know about it. Uh, so you got me at a loss, I don’t know. Uh, uh, but, but My goodness if it’s got everything including sleaziness in it we should talk about it this morning.

Roma: This is the American way…

Charlie Gibson: Well maybe, maybe that’s one you just leave to the cables.

Roma: Well I think that this is a huge issue because there’s so much funding that goes into this organization and it’s a multi…

Charlie Gibson: Well, I know we’ve done some stories about ACORN before but uh, uh this one I don’t know about.

Roma: Jake Tapper did some blogging on it. I know he’s at least blogged once on this scandal.

Charlie Gibson: You guys, you guys are really up on the uh on the website.

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Footage of the San Bernardino investigation was not available at the time of the interview.

Thank you to WLS AM Chicago for providing the audio.

Listen to the audio here:
[begins about 5 minutes into the audio clip. More incredible audio clips from the new Acorn videos later in the audio (apprx 11 mins into it) - total length of audio: apprx 35 mins. you can slide the bar over to the 5 min mark]
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/MediaPlayer/AudioPlayer.aspx?ContentGuid=8e38a801-07a5-41be-b6a1-fac443716e71

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2341347/posts

22 posted on 09/17/2009 5:18:07 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: calex59
Beck made a disclaimer on his show and said they couldn't confirm she had actually killed anyone. That's all he needed to do to cover his butt and the couples.

If that's the case, Debra Saunders has really made herself look bad with this ridiculous column. That San Francisco atmosphere must have addled her brain while she wrote this. And she goes on to say this:

Congress should pass a measure ending federal funding for ACORN, and President Obama, who represented ACORN in a 1995 lawsuit, should sign it.

She praises the action the Senate took against ACORN, then recommends the above, while condemning the investigative, sting operation that exposed ACORN and created the current anti-ACORN atmosphere, and made any action at all possible. A dumb column.

23 posted on 09/17/2009 5:20:33 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Kaslin

Isn’t this guy missing the point?

It isn’t the fault of the filmaker - or Glen Beck that this chick’s husband is still alive.

She is the one who ran her mouth - and did not recoil in horror at the “pimp and ho’s” plan to engage in human trafficking.
She did not call the police.

So while it’s true other offices kicked them out - it is still troubling that others didn’t - going so far as to offering advice and trying to get them to join ACORN.


24 posted on 09/17/2009 5:21:39 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

whoops - not a guy.
Isn’t this chick missing the point?


25 posted on 09/17/2009 5:25:27 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Kaslin


26 posted on 09/17/2009 5:26:05 AM PDT by Bobalu (I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: Will88

He gave a warning about it. He said that they tried to verify information with the State of California, but CA wouldn’t talk to them. So he said to use your own judgment regarding the claim.


27 posted on 09/17/2009 5:33:43 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: ETL

The ACORN employee who confessed to the premeditated murder of her husband and said that she had been a madam herself was unbelievable. What a liar! She was bragging about her ill deeds. Sick sick sick!


28 posted on 09/17/2009 5:38:05 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: ETL
Shame on me ETL because it is I who has missed the larger story here!

The REALLY BIG story is this;

How many sub-prime mortgages has ACORN facilitated over the past decade and what % of those mortgages are now in default?

29 posted on 09/17/2009 5:48:28 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Pietro
From 2008: Guilty Party: ACORN, Obama, and the mortgage mess
National Review ^ | September 30, 2008 | Mona Charen

Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:39:11 AM by ETL

The financial markets were teetering on the edge of an abyss last week. The secretary of the Treasury was literally on his knees begging the speaker of the House not to sabotage the bailout bill. The crash of falling banks made the earth tremble. The Republican presidential candidate suspended his campaign to deal with the crisis. And amid all this, the Democrats in Congress managed to find time to slip language into the bailout legislation that would provide a dandy little slush fund for ACORN.

ACORN stands for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, a busy hive of left-wing agitation and “direct action” that claims chapters in 50 cities and 100,000 dues-paying members. ACORN is where Sixties leftovers who couldn’t get tenure at universities wound up. That the bill-writing Democrats remembered their pet clients during such an emergency speaks volumes. This attempted gift to ACORN (stripped out of the bill after outraged howls from Republicans) demonstrates how little Democrats understand about what caused the mess we’re in.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2341036/posts

30 posted on 09/17/2009 5:53:40 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Pietro
Photobucket

Obama, ACORN, the (Marxist) New Party and the Working Family Party (an Acorn front group)
numerous sources

Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 11:08:18 AM by ETL:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2337249/posts

31 posted on 09/17/2009 5:54:40 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Pietro
An ACORN Falls from the Tree: A congressional outrage
Ken Blackwell, September 29, 2008
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=N2Y5MTc0ZTAyMmE1Mjk3NGE3OWRiY2FkMjZlN2YxYzc=
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Inside Obama’s Acorn:
By their fruits ye shall know them

Stanley Kurtz, May 29, 2008

“What if Barack Obama’s most important radical connection has been hiding in plain sight all along? Obama has had an intimate and long-term association with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (Acorn), the largest radical group in America. If I told you Obama had close ties with MoveOn.org or Code Pink, you’d know what I was talking about. Acorn is at least as radical as these better-known groups, arguably more so. Yet because Acorn works locally, in carefully selected urban areas, its national profile is lower. Acorn likes it that way. And so, I’d wager, does Barack Obama.”
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDZiMjkwMDczZWI5ODdjOWYxZTIzZGIyNzEyMjE0ODI
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Bailout Politics: The Congressional Dems who enabled this crisis are now being trusted to fix it?
Thomas Sowell, September 30, 2008
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OWE3OWU3OTExYzNlNTUzMzY2YmJmOWZjMzcwN2M1NjU=

32 posted on 09/17/2009 5:56:44 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: All
"With the New Party’s rise and its entanglements with ACORN [Association of Community Organizers For Reform Now] came the rise of Barack Obama. According to Stanley Kurtz, “Acorn is the key modern successor of the radical 1960’s ‘New Left,’ with a ‘1960’s-bred agenda of anti-capitalism’ to match.” And Barack Obama was ACORN’s lawyer."

http://archive.redstate.com/stories/elections/2008/barack_obama_sought_the_new_partys_endorsement_knowing_it_was_a_radical_left_organization
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NOTE: As of today, Sept 11, 2009, DiscoverTheNetworks.org/FrontPageMag.com profile doesn't (yet?) include the latest revelation that (President) Obama was actually a member of the New Party. HOWEVER, he does link to several articles on the left side of the page that apparently do go into it in detail.-ETL

PROFILE: NEW PARTY (NP)
* Marxist political coalition
* Was active from 1992-1998
* Endorsed Barack Obama for Illinois state senate seat in 1996

Co-founded in 1992 by Daniel Cantor (a former staffer for Jesse Jackson's 1988 presidential campaign) and Joel Rogers (a sociology and law professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison), the New Party was a Marxist political coalition whose objective was to endorse and elect leftist public officials -- most often Democrats. The New Party's short-term objective was to move the Democratic Party leftward, thereby setting the stage for the eventual rise of new Marxist third party.

Most New Party members hailed from the Democratic Socialists of America and the militant organization ACORN. The party's Chicago chapter also included a large contingent from the Committees of Correspondence, a Marxist coalition of former Maoists, Trotskyists, and Communist Party USA members.

The New Party's modus operandi included the political strategy of "electoral fusion," where it would nominate, for various political offices, candidates from other parties (usually Democrats), thereby enabling each of those candidates to occupy more than one ballot line in the voting booth. By so doing, the New Party often was able to influence candidates' platforms. (Fusion of this type is permitted in seven states -- Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho, Mississippi, New York, South Carolina, and Vermont -- but is common only in New York.)

Though Illinois was not one of the states that permitted electoral fusion, in 1995 Barack Obama nonetheless sought the New Party's endorsement for his 1996 state senate run. He was successful in obtaining that endorsement, and he used a number of New Party volunteers as campaign workers.

In 1996, three of the four candidates endorsed by the New Party won their electoral primaries. The three victors included Barack Obama (in the 13th State Senate District), Danny Davis (in the 7th Congressional District), and Patricia Martin, who won the race for Judge in the 7th Subcircuit Court. All four candidates attended an April 11, 1996 New Party membership meeting to express their gratitude for the party's support.

The New Party's various chapters similarly helped to elect dozens of other political candidates in a host of American cities.

One of the more notable New Party members was Carl Davidson, a Chicago-based Marxist who became a political supporter of Barack Obama in the mid-1990s.

In 1997 the New Party's influence declined precipitously after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that electoral fusion was not protected by the First Amendment's freedom of association clause. By 1998 the party was essentially defunct. Daniel Canto and other key party members went on to establish a new organization with similar ideals, the Working Families Party of New York.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7434
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Obama - file 41: Obama Was a New Party Member-Documentary Evidence
By Trevor Loudon October 23, 2008
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-file-41-obama-was-new-party.html

33 posted on 09/17/2009 5:57:38 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL
My point is that every defaulted sub-prime loan was paid for out of taxpayer monies. The banking bailout, the Fannie Mae Freddie Mac bailout, etc...

How many 100's of millions of those bailouts can be tied back to ACORN facilitated loans?

34 posted on 09/17/2009 5:58:56 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: All
From Obama's official website:

When Obama met with ACORN leaders in November, he reminded them of his history with ACORN and his beginnings in Illinois as a Project Vote organizer, a nonprofit focused on voter rights and education. Senator Obama said, "I come out of a grassroots organizing background. That's what I did for three and half years before I went to law school. That's the reason I moved to Chicago was to organize. So this is something that I know personally, the work you do, the importance of it. I've been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drive in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work.”

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGC7zm

35 posted on 09/17/2009 5:59:40 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

hmmmm...I wonder how long that info you just provided will be accessible on that site?


36 posted on 09/17/2009 6:02:32 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Pietro

I understand. The 2-page Ken Blackwell article I posted goes into it in some detail.

An ACORN Falls from the Tree
By Ken Blackwell
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=N2Y5MTc0ZTAyMmE1Mjk3NGE3OWRiY2FkMjZlN2YxYzc


37 posted on 09/17/2009 6:06:18 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Scotswife
hmmmm...I wonder how long that info you just provided will be accessible on that site?

You're right. Time for a screen shot of the page?

However, FoxNews has recently discovered the Obama quotes and have been using them in various segments. Not sure where they got them from, but I've been posting them here for a long time now.

38 posted on 09/17/2009 6:11:33 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL
Thanks for the article, its a good place to start and exactly what I'm referring to.

Let's conservatively assume that:

Acorn facilitates 2,000 sub-prime loans per year for 10 years. That's 20,000 loans.

Lets assume that each loan is vauled at $50,000. That's $1,000,000,000.

Let's further guess that 20% of those loans failed. That's $200,000,000 these charlatans stole from us. The biggest crime of the century.

I think a class action lawsuit may be in order.

39 posted on 09/17/2009 6:24:47 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Ditter
The ACORN employee who confessed to the premeditated murder of her husband and said that she had been a madam herself was unbelievable.

Killing a wife-beater when he's coming after you is not murder. Preparing to defend yourself against a known violent person is not a criminal act.

40 posted on 09/17/2009 7:02:11 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Kaslin

I disagree with Saunders’s statement that conservatives should “be aware” of libs going around taping statements. That’s exactly what has been going for many decades. How is taping people different from interviewing people at some political rally and taking away a few outrageous statements? The libs do that all the time. The difference us, of course, ACORN is a political organization dedicated to leftist causes and not some individuals showing up at a rally.


41 posted on 09/17/2009 7:28:44 AM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: calex59
Someone should ask O'Keefe in the next interview (if they haven't already)

whether they were EVER turned down by any ACORN rep for their brothel/tax evasion scheme.

42 posted on 09/17/2009 7:32:33 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Brugmansian
What is the matter with Saunders? She's usually brighter than this.

She's not really making much sense with that conclusion. If she fancies herself a journalist, she might fancy Beck's unorthodox reporting to be below her lofty standards.

The problem Saunders should consider is that this may be the only type of reporting -- sensationalism -- that could make a dent in a that sacred cow of Congress, ACORN. There's been oceans of words written about their corruption in every area -- tax evasion, embezzlement, violent tactics, illegal use of federal money, just to name a few -- and nothing of any significance has been done to halt that corruption.

This -- visually candid proof of the corruption -- might yield real results.

43 posted on 09/17/2009 7:33:06 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: mvpel
Continuing to live with a wife beater after the first beating is beyond stupid. Then after he beat her the 2nd time she planned to kill him. She told other people he had beat her then she provoked him by say “f... you”. She said she knew when she said that he would come after her. She said he came after her and she shot him in the head.

Of course it was all a lie, fantasy about what she would have liked to have done.

44 posted on 09/17/2009 7:47:31 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: GonzoGOP

I looked up FSM in the Urban Dictionary and came up with "Flying Spaghetti Monster". I assume it means "Fascist State Media"?

45 posted on 09/17/2009 8:09:41 AM PDT by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: Nateman
I assume it means "Fascist State Media"?

Fringe Socialist Media. Glen Beck used it yesterday since the media can no longer be called “Mainstream” with a straight face.

46 posted on 09/17/2009 8:13:00 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: ETL
http://americanshareholders.org/acorn-seed-financial-crisis-a2857

This is what I'm talking about!

47 posted on 09/17/2009 1:06:45 PM PDT by Pietro
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