Agenda 21, Secular Humanism, and the Animalization of Americans

Conservative Underground ^ | 15-Sep-2009 | Linda Kimball

[GodGunsGuts]

(for those who need some context, see above. As Judeo-Christian conservatives, I realy think we need to start seriously talking about the following. All the best—GGG)

“Where else can you sit down in a single evening and listen to senior people from Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, people from the revolutionary left and the antiwar movement from around the globe?”

— British Trotskyite John Rees at the Cairo Anti-War Conference, April 2007

“Over the past year, multiple international conferences have featured leaders of the anti-global left and Islamist groups working together. Go to any anti-war or anti-globalization demonstration in the West and chances are you will see the flags of Hezbollah and Hamas waved by people wearing Che Guevara T-shirts. And at some of these meetings, members of such radical Islamist groups as the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, and Hezbollah have enjoyed starring roles”.....

*For remainder of this important article see:

http://www.nysun.com/foreign/islamist-left-alliance-a-growing-force/54077/

[allmendream]

That is a few steps short of your idiotic notion that if an Islamic group ever had any contact with Communists that suddenly they renounced their religion and became secular and want to kill people because of evolutionary biology.

[GodGunsGuts]

Speaking of idiotic...you are a useful idiot in the extreme. I’m sure your fellow revolutionary, evo-materialist coreligionists are quite proud of your efforts to steer attention away from the anti-Western Islamo-Commie alliance. Please do us all a favor and leave the conservative movement...but I know you won’t, you’re on a mission.

[allmendream]

And when Conservatives point out that “the War on Terror” is a lame dodge because we are REALLY at war with Islamic Terrorists?

You are an apologist for Islamic terrorists. You are not a conservative, you are a fanatic. You are on a mission to promote creationism, even if it is Islamic creationism.

You agree with an Islamic creationist site that 9-11 was caused by belief in evolution.

Where is the evidence? Not that they had contact with Communists? Where is the evidence that they even KNOW the theory of evolution, or justify their killings because of it?

A Islamic jihadists idea of “evolution” is that a Jew is descended from pigs and apes; not that all humanity shares a common ancestor with apes.

[FreedomProtector]

thanks for the ping....

[count-your-change]

Yippeee Skipppy!!! Someone foaming at the mouth calling you a fanatic! Considering the source, it might be an honor of sorts, GGG.

[YHAOS]

”Again with the “claims” garbage (move over St. Peter, and hand those keys to metmom). Is the Pope, who said evolution was “a fact that enriches our understanding of life and being and such” also only “claiming” to be a Christian? Do you think he similarly rejects miraculous involvement of God in the world?”

And did not the Pope also say, at the same time, that evolution did not answer all questions? “Above all it does not answer the great philosophical question, ‘Where does everything come from?’” (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19956961/ )

That statement (“where does everything come from?”) is as quintessential a Creationist statement as the Pontiff could possibly utter. Yet you vilify Creationists and attempt to isolate them from Christianity with malignant aspersions unexplainable in the degree of their malice and villainy. If you hold Creationists in contempt, then you hold Pope Benedict, and all Christians, in contempt. Even the very unconventional Christian Thomas Jefferson believed that the Judeo-Christian God created Mankind and the Universe.

”Believing that the creation of the natural world utilized natural means, and using science to discover those processes whereby stars and elements and planets form - is not a denial that God can and does perform miracles.”

Now wait a moment . . . is it the creation of the natural world, or is it the formational processes of stars, elements, and planets that Science explains? My! how you love to scramble and mix the terms you use in your argumentation. I was twenty-eight year’s age before Science figured out there was a beginning. Jefferson knew the fact 140 years earlier (and Adams even earlier). The Hebrew people knew it back to a time incalculable by me. So, tell me allmendream, how was Mankind Created? The Universe (the heaven and the earth)? Or, even simply, water?

The Christians of this forum don’t object to “natural processes.” They object, vehemently, to the intense fanatics who claim that those “natural processes” prove that; 1) No gods worth having exist; 2) no life after death exists; 3) no ultimate foundation for ethics exists; 4) no ultimate meaning in life exists; and 5) human free will is nonexistent.

If you waged war against those miscreants with the evangelical zeal you assail your Christian brethren, you might discover a more sympathetic audience in this forum. As it is, they simply do not believe your expressions of sincerity.

[YHAOS]

”Where is the evidence? Not that they had contact with Communists? Where is the evidence that they even KNOW the theory of evolution, or justify their killings because of it?”

The anti-global left tells them if necessary. Islamic lunatics may be intellectually isolated, but they are not insulated.

The New York Sun, May 9, 2007 - “anti-global left and Islamist groups working together.”

Which word don’t you understand?

[GodGunsGuts]

It’s not that he doesn’t understand. Allmendream is actively trying to coverup the Islamo-Commie alliance. I have been over and over this with Allmendream, and every single time he does everything in his power to steer attention away from his evo-atheist allies on the Left, while at the same time directing his wrath against genuine conservatives who try and expose it.

“While the form of treachery varies slightly from case to case, liberals always manage to take the position that most undermines American security.”

—Ann Coulter

[familyop]

“'Over the past year, multiple international conferences have featured leaders of the anti-global left and Islamist groups working together. Go to any anti-war or anti-globalization demonstration in the West and chances are you will see the flags of Hezbollah and Hamas waved by people wearing Che Guevara T-shirts...'"

If they're "anti-globalization," they're fighting against efforts in their favor. We're ruled by globe-trotting, fascist gangs of plutocrats who are only appeasing Islamists to keep freight fuel prices down. The PLA heads only talk about communism while feeding their uber-rich cronies.

And the same multi-partisan constituents behind the figureheads chant that there's not enough room on this planet for us peasants, and they built the current socialist system to support the economic cleansing.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[familyop]

"And why would you want to fight against Muslim’s who are risking life and limb denouncing terrorism, as opposed to the Islamo-Commie terror alliance who are actually working together to carry out terrorist acts against the US and its allies?"

Now there's a lot of truth in that. Iran is a communist Nation...or a monarchy, depending on how you look at it. The government there owns all of the businesses while doling management duties out to the various clerics.

[familyop]

"The murderous secular humanist religions of Communism and Nazism were spawned by the anti-God/utopian tradition of Revolutionary France."

And here I thought they were spawned by distributists in their pointy hats, as they led the fall of Rome, the Renaissance, Romanticism, and all of that. ...same thing, though, come to think of it.

[familyop]

"Ayn Rand was an Atheist."

Correct.

"The prominent Founding Fathers shared her views."

Wrong.

[familyop]

"Russia is still a gangster state run by the very same gangster as when they were called the Soviet Union. Red China is still the very same gangster state as they were before we opened up “free trade” with them."

Agreed. And special trade interests of old Sicilian sentiments are feeding all of our real strength (manufacturing base, morale,...) to the foreign tyrants. Those interests have been oozing in and taking over since the middle of the 1800s.

[familyop]

Here’s a link to a related, recent piece. ...no content from that site allowed to be posted here, BTW.

U.S. Debt Crisis May Cause ‘Fall of Rome’ Scenario, Duncan Says
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=email_en&sid=aJ6jnKWHrQgI

[allmendream]

It isn't that GGG doesn't understand, it is that he is actively trying to cover for Islamic terrorists and cover up the connection between radical Islam and terrorism.

And “meeting with the secular left” is no evidence at all that they themselves have given up their religion, let alone that their hatred of the West is somehow motivated by evolutionary biology, or that they even KNOW evolutionary biology.

According to the bizarro world of your own construction, a Madras trained Islamist would be MUCH safer allowing to immigrate into the US than one trained at the University in biology. That is absolutely ludicrous, but it shows just how far into delusion you will go to try to cover for your intellectual brethren, the Islamist creationists.

[spirited irish]

“Where else can you sit down in a single evening and listen to senior people from Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, people from the revolutionary left and the antiwar movement from around the globe?”

— British Trotskyite John Rees at the Cairo Anti-War Conference, April 2007

Spirited: What do all of the above hold in common?
In part:

1. A dehumanized view of man. A must-hold view for the doing of evil to ‘others.’

2. Adherence to some variant of evolutionary theory, for it conveniantly and automatically dehumanizes ‘others’ while allowing it’s resentment-charged adepts—the so-called highly evolved beings-—to imagine themselves as the neo-Brahmanic caste, godmen, supermen, ‘the enlightened ones,’ etc.

3. By extension of the above, a lust for power fueled by hatred and an overwhelming sense of entitlement harnessed to a willingness to lie, cheat, steal, slander, murder, etc. to get it.

4. Narcissism and diabolical narcissism, also called sociopathy and psychopathy

[tpanther]

excellent post!

[tpanther]

metmom:

So, amd, please explain why the virgin birth and the resurrection are acceptable things to believe in in contradiction to science, but the creation account isn’t.

Thank you, ZC, for putting it so succinctly.

YHAOS:

The Hebrew people knew it back to a time incalculable by me. So, tell me allmendream, how was Mankind Created? The Universe (the heaven and the earth)? Or, even simply, water?

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Notice the inability to answer?