[RAO1125]

But borrowing billions from China to fight wars that do little to nothing for the US doesn’t count right? When I hear arguments from neos that “The ideas that Strauss and Irv Kristol had were never implemented correctly, that’s why Bush failed.” It reminds me, almost ver batim, of communists (ironic considering neoconservatism’s roots) who argue that Stalin, Mao, Castro, ect failed because they didn’t implement true Marxism.

[rabscuttle385]

It reminds me, almost ver batim, of communists (ironic considering neoconservatism’s roots) who argue that Stalin, Mao, Castro, ect failed because they didn’t implement true Marxism.

True idiocy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

[1rudeboy]

When I hear arguments from neos that “The ideas that Strauss and Irv Kristol had were never implemented correctly, that’s why Bush failed.”

Seeing that your statement is a textbook example of "begging the question" (for all you fans of logical fallacies here), I'll wager you just made that up.

[miliantnutcase]

Spot on sir. I’m not sure when being a Goldwater conservative stopped being cool?