Posted on 09/20/2009 6:10:19 AM PDT by gusopol3
No question they had made extraordinary preparation for inauguration crowd control and facilitation of large numbers of attendees.
where is the source for this alleged fire department estimate. it sounds more like an internet rumor
You should send a copy to O’Reilly. I heard him say “70,000” again to correct Chris Wallace.
We were there also and the turnstyles were open when our massive group went through also. Can someone explain how an accurate count could be obtained with those open and no count able to be done. It would seem the great aerial phots would belie the low numbers!
Most excellent point.
I, too, was near the National Botanical Garden (site of the only non-porta potty), and left the rally just before 2:00pm. I walked to the Capitol South Metro station and, lo and behold, people were still arriving!
We waited for 45 minutes to use the restroom in the botanical Garden Bldg.! Oh well we took the time to admire the flora of our surroundings.
The men's line moved much quicker. I heard numerous reports that women were deperately gate crashing into the men's room.
It’s, it’s, it’s like the miracle of the loaves and fishes. The completely objective, truth-dedicated MSM told us there were only 70,000 and yet so many rode the Metro. I guess each person there rode back and forth maybe 6 times and those that drove their cars, like the woman we met up with who had been raised in Northeast, and parked in her old neighborhood, must have ridden back and forth on Metro many timse when we weren’t with her and done so for no reason at all.
We let the pregnant woman go to the front of the line. Yep some brave woman used the mensroom. Not me... I waited patiently, talking to a group from St. Louis. Great bunch of folks!
This is direct, clear evidence that the press is lying to us. They were not merely ignoring the evidence but patently lying to our faces when they said “60,000 to 70,000” or the more generic “tens of thousands.”
But this story is “old news” now so they don’t need to mention anything further about it. Take comfort in the fact that we know how the history books will record the 9/12 protest, despite their nefarious efforts.
The upside, however, is that over a million people came to Washington, D.C., in an unorganized protest WITHOUT the media telling us about it! We did this on our own!
Same with the ACORN videos and Van Jones and (someday) the birth certificate thing. And if Glenn Beck really is the “targeting director” for this grassroots force, then the Apollo Alliance will be next down the chute.
Take heart in the fact that the alternative media works. Word does get out, so long as we’re allowed to keep our Internet access.
Fox’s main drawback relative to CNN is lack of boots on the ground in terms of # of reporters; nonetheless, you’d think they could come up with some credible independent reporting on this rather than parroting ridiculous low ball estimates , even as late as 9/18 on BOR, namely after this article and metro #s are public knowledge.
Somebody tell Charles at Little Green Footballs. He seems to think that only a handful showed up on 9-12 and keeps beating the drum. I thought at one time LGF leaned to the right but it has really taken a left turn. Guess that explains why I was banned.
Maybe they didn’t know where the rally was???
Note this comment from the linked Heritage article:
Kenneth Happel, Vista, CA writes:
I was the medical coordinator for the event. I believe that there were at least a million people there and a million and a half would be my best bet.
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I dont know where the official estimate quoted as 60,000 comes from. The event permit, and Chief Lyles fire department resource allocation, was based upon 50,000 (because we couldnt prove more beforehand)and that number of people was supposed to be contained in the central section of the west lawn between the sidewalks extending from the freedom and grant statues.
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I counted the crowd entering Penn. Ave. to determine how many first aid team people were needed and where. I made my count at Freedom Plaza after the police radio had indicated that the front of the march had reached Capital Circle. I used the following method. We counted the number of people stretching across Penn. Ave. from curb to curb for a distance down the street of ten feet. That number was divided in half (assuming that there were variations in how tightly people were packed)and multiplied by the number of ten foot intervals from Freedom Park to Capitol Circle. At 8:00 the count was 200,000. I inserted a medical team at that point and when it reached Capitol Circle the whole avenue had filled again and I inserted my team. So at about 9:30 the total attendance from the march was, conservatively, about 400,000. The avenue continued to pumo in people fopr another two hours. So I estimate about 600,000 came through that route.
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There was also a very large stream that filled the whole street from the train station to Capitol circle and people that came on the underground said that it was simply packed with people coming out at the protest site (both these flows were not part of the march).
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The National Park Service published its estimating method in USA Today, when they provided an estimate for President Obamas inaguration. That method estimates by filled area.
The west lawn (all three sections were filled solid with little space between people)the shoulders around the building and the area directly around the reflecting pool is 240,000 by the NPS estimating method. The mall from the reflecting pool to the cross street before the Washington Monument is 940,000 according to the NPS. The first section of the mall nearest the Washingon Monument was reserved for the NAACPs Family event. Our folks, at the height of the event, stretched from the cross street before the NAACP event all the way to the relfecting pool and were packed. I would guess that its 4/5 of the 940,000 or 750,000 people together thats a million. Then there was the area from first street to third street (third street goes to the train station). First street was so crowded the police had to clear it. The crowd also filled most of the area around and between the museums on each side, with the greatest density in the half of the mall nearest the reflecting pool. You could easily add another half million with these two areas.
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Thats how I came to an estimate of one to one and a half million.
Under no possible stretch of the imagination or should I say contraction of the imagination were there only 60,000. To see crowd outline on the National Park Service estimator go to my facebook page kenneth happel and look at the photos.
I have a liberal friend who is ranting about Fox News alleged fabrication and subsuquent ad saying the MSM wasn’t there and didn’t cover the 9-12 protests. And how CNN was there with coverage bla blah blah.
Coverage is one thing. But fair coverage of the facts, and the real reasons behind the march overrides just what lieberals call coverage.
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