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To: Sub-Driver

They always send fire trucks along with ambulances even if there’s no report of fire. Seems like a waste of resources.


3 posted on 09/22/2009 7:58:22 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

I wonder if they’ll give him the red pill or the blue pill?


7 posted on 09/22/2009 7:59:31 AM PDT by theyreallthesame
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To: Borges

Volunteer fire department.


8 posted on 09/22/2009 7:59:31 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Borges

‘They always send fire trucks along with ambulances even if there’s no report of fire. Seems like a waste of resources.’

I think the firefighters are there to break down the doors in case entrance to the facility proves difficult. Not sure about that, but it sounds good...


9 posted on 09/22/2009 7:59:50 AM PDT by joejm65
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To: Borges
They always send fire trucks along with ambulances even if there’s no report of fire. Seems like a waste of resources.

They're sent for manpower assistance. There are many times when I ran rescue in Virginia that we needed the assistance of firefighters to carry a person up or down stairs, etc.

11 posted on 09/22/2009 8:01:07 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Socialism is the plundering of the productive by the unaccountable)
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To: Borges

In certain cities the ambulances are much busier than the fire trucks so they send them first to assist.


14 posted on 09/22/2009 8:02:06 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Borges

“Seems like a waste of resources.”

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It IS, in the vast majority of cases.

But, prepare for incoming.....


21 posted on 09/22/2009 8:03:53 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Borges

It’s so that if the guy/girl/man/women as a fatso they can get him/her/it out and into the meat wagon.


26 posted on 09/22/2009 8:06:19 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: Borges
They always send fire trucks along with ambulances even if there’s no report of fire. Seems like a waste of resources.

Maybe he used too much kerosene and burlap on the Cross last night.

34 posted on 09/22/2009 8:09:05 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Roark, Architect.)
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To: Borges
Seems like a waste of resources

Sometimes it is, but if you need equipment on the engine to extricate someone, remove a fixed object impaling them so they can be transported with the object in place until medical personnel can remove it in the hospital, etc, you want the equipment there right away. The delay can be the difference between life and death.

People who call 9-1-1 aren't always completely accurate nor comprehensive in their description of the situation.

39 posted on 09/22/2009 8:10:22 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Borges

There are several reasons for sending fire units.

First, many paramedic units are staffed at BLS levels and require a driver from a different unit if they need to make an Advanced Life Support transport.

Second, fire department resources may be closer, so they can get first responders on scene more quickly. Most fire departments require all firefighter to be at least EMTs, and many departments are all paramedic.

I don’t know the protocol in the area, but in Milwaukee, the fire department is dispatched to provide EMS care, then a private ambulance is called for transport unless the patient needs advanced life support transport. This is a common protocol in larger cities.

Finally, in many cases (not this one), when a person has fallen, the fire department will be needed to force entry into the house.


40 posted on 09/22/2009 8:10:36 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Borges
They always send fire trucks along with ambulances even if there’s no report of fire.

It was just in case Sheets got the cross lit before they arrived.

63 posted on 09/22/2009 8:22:05 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (William Marcy Tweed was a community organizer too.)
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To: Borges

“They always send fire trucks along with ambulances even if there’s no report of fire. Seems like a waste of resources.”

There are two people on an ambulance. As a rule, sick people and particularly those who who fall, are overweight. Many times they are morbidly obese.

We send the extra resources for lift assistance and it really helps to have some extra folks if you are running a full code (CPR) There is a lot of stuff to do in the first few minutes that directly impacts survivability.

That being said, the multiple ambulances and trucks bit confuses me on a fall.

I live with constant mild back pain from lifting large patients over 22 yrs.


85 posted on 09/22/2009 8:52:34 AM PDT by Clay Moore (Obama: A good example of why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: Borges
They always send fire trucks along with ambulances even if there’s no report of fire. Seems like a waste of resources.

The firemen in our area are EMTs. First responders. The ambulance may only have personnel capable of transport to the hospital. Some ambulances come with paramedics. It is also common to dispatch a police officer ahead of the fire/ambulance crew in cases where the need for the call is a consequence of physical violence inflicted on the victim. The perpetrator of the violent act may still be on scene and a hazard to the responding medical personnel.

103 posted on 09/22/2009 9:44:31 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Borges

especially in this case...


124 posted on 09/22/2009 10:58:14 AM PDT by Hexenhammer
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To: Borges

Maybe there was a burning cross that needed to be put out.

Seriously, though...some departments send a truck in case extra manpower is needed. My Dad drove Engine 3 for the Portland, Maine FD, and he once had to help carry a 400 pound woman down 5 flights of stairs in a Stokes stretcher.


137 posted on 09/22/2009 11:18:18 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're right! We're free! And we'll fight! And you'll seeeeeeee!)
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To: Borges

Here in Georgia, at least in my county, they send cops, ambulence, fire etc for any emergency call.

I’ve always imagined that while they’re all standing around deciding what to do for the cat stuck up your tree, the other side of town could be being pillaged and burned to the ground.


154 posted on 09/22/2009 12:15:45 PM PDT by Yankee (Welcome to Obama's Fourth Reich.)
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To: Borges

My fire department does not do medical calls, however many do.

Generally the fire department is quicker to get to the scene with their paramedics and/or EMT’s in my area as each village has a fire department but not their own ambulances, therefore they will assess and/or stabilize the patient while awaiting the ambulance to arrive.

BTW the other reasons mentioned on this thread are also valid reasons for the FD and ambulance to be dispatched to the same call...


203 posted on 09/22/2009 5:35:16 PM PDT by The Chief (Volunteer Fire Fighter since 1989, 20+ years!)
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To: Borges
Around here every medical call gets a firetruck, that usually arrives first. One of the fire persons is always a paramedic and ALL engines have a basic med kit including defib and some meds. Ambulances can take 20 minutes to arrive in outlying areas and fire houses are usually 5-7 minutes away. BTW the ambulances are operated by a separate entity from the fire service.
209 posted on 09/22/2009 5:54:26 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
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To: Borges

“They always send fire trucks along with ambulances even if there’s no report of fire. Seems like a waste of resources.”

It depends on the area. If the fire department doesn’t have dedicated paramedic squads, an engine or truck company would be dispatched until the contract ambulance service arrives.

Here in Montgomery, they have paramedic squads, but there isn’t enough to cover the entire city, so some engine companies pull double duty.


218 posted on 09/22/2009 7:02:04 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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