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ACORN Sues Breitbart: ACORN Falls into Another Breitbart Trap?
DBKP ^ | September 23, 2009 | Mondo Frazier

Posted on 09/23/2009 6:31:43 PM PDT by mondoreb

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To: pissant

Thanks!

I’m looking at a lot of Weather Underground/Bill Ayers stuff right now.

I took about 8 months off to help a buddy get his company off the ground. A man’s gots to eat!


21 posted on 09/23/2009 6:43:48 PM PDT by mondoreb (Proud to be "half-baked".)
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To: Frantzie
Obama *IS* ACORN.

No, no, Obama didn't know ACORN was getting a lot of federal money. Hear him say it ....

http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-i-didnt-even-know-that-acorn-was-getting-a-whole-lot-of-federal-money/

22 posted on 09/23/2009 6:44:37 PM PDT by shiva
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To: mondoreb
Breitbart certainly seems to have thought this through a lot more thoroughly than ACORN's Bertha Lewis...

There are stumps brighter than that cretin. These idiots better hope the system survives.

23 posted on 09/23/2009 6:44:47 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: mondoreb

Having been through the rectal exam know as “discovery”, I just wonder if the acorn nuts are shredding paper and wiping hard drives right now. Naw, they’re leftist scum. Long on emotion, short on brains (or they wouldn’t be leftists). Of course, their lawyers might tell them to “clean up”.


24 posted on 09/23/2009 6:45:51 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: mondoreb

Well, welcome back. I still believe Larry Sinclair is telling the truth.


25 posted on 09/23/2009 6:45:55 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: KC Burke; All

Just read this at The Corner:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjEyMTc2OWVhOWFjM2M0MzBlZWJiZTFjYjJlOTNmNzQ=

Acorn’s Lawsuit [Jonah Goldberg]

From a lawyer reader. I’ve redacted a bit from the opening in which he gives his background. He’s not a specialist so take it for what it’s worth. It strikes me as pretty reasonable.

I hope all is well with you and yours.

I just wanted to give you a quick lawyer’s take on the ACORN complaint against Breitbart, Giles, and O’Keffe. By way of background, I am [redacted] .... but would obviously like to keep my identity concealed if you should decide to pass this along to anyone.

First, ACORN filed in state court in Baltimore to get the home field advantage, but there is diversity jurisdiction and it will almost certainly be removed to federal court. That will likely be the defendants’ first move. I’m not terribly familiar with that federal district, but it is surely more conservative than a Maryland state court. Moreover, it lies in the Fourth Circuit, which is one the most conservative in the country, so there is an excellent appellate “back stop” that will be a great advantage to the defendants.

Second, ACORN’s legal theory is very, very thin. Their only cause of action is for a violation of the Maryland wiretapping statute. I’m certainly no expert on that statute, and I have no opinion as to whether Giles and O’Keffe violated it. But, for the sake of argument, let’s assume they did. The violation of a criminal statute does not automatically give rise to civil liability in the absence of an express statutory provision that creates a private cause of action. I’ve litigated that issue on behalf of corporate defendants many, many times and my recollection is that I’ve never lost on it. I’m somewhat surprised that ACORN didn’t include some other common law claims, such as intentional infliction of emotional distress or false light breach of privacy. But the problem with those claims is the vast, vast body of First Amendment law protecting media defendants (which surely includes Breitbart, Giles, and O’Keffe here).

Third, with a little bit of careful thought, the defendants could plead some interesting counterclaims. The federal False Claims Act and RICO come to mind, and would be very interesting.

Fourth, even if the defendants don’t plead any counterclaims, the scope of discovery against ACORN will be incredibly broad, as it almost always is in civil litigation. ACORN has far, far more to lose from what could come out during discovery than what they are asking for in this suit.

Fifth, it’s sorta bizarre that the fired employees are joining in the suit with ACORN, the entity that fired them. That complicates just about every legal theory, and even has possible ethical complications for their attorneys. I’d have to think about the issue some more, but at first blush I think the defendants’ attorneys might want to move to disqualify the ACORN attorneys from representing all three plaintiffs on the grounds that the fired employees have, essentially, wrongful discharge claims against ACORN. Even if the motion is unsuccessful, each of the plaintiffs will have to take a stand, very early on in the litigation, as to whether or not the firings were appropriate. None of them have any good answers to that question.

In short, Learned Hand once said that he feared a lawsuit more than death or taxes. With good lawyering from the defendants (which I’m sure their going to get), ACORN is about to find out what Hand meant. ACORN has very little to gain and a lot to lose.

Keep up the great work!


26 posted on 09/23/2009 6:46:01 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: mondoreb

This all sounds exciting but you have seen how difficult it has been to do any “discovering” in the BC suit. I just hope it’s not one way.


27 posted on 09/23/2009 6:46:19 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: KoRn

Schweeeeet....cant wait...


28 posted on 09/23/2009 6:46:23 PM PDT by Former MSM Viewer
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To: BunnySlippers

Maybe it will, but what will be the outcome? What difference will it make? The damage has been done. ACORN has been exposed.

If they win some cash settlement, the videographers simply declare bankruptcy.


29 posted on 09/23/2009 6:50:57 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'd rather be a teabagger than an ankle-grabber.)
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To: Frantzie

The dripping is smart. Andrew probably knew this lawsuit would happen.
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Yes. He said, “Bring it on.”


30 posted on 09/23/2009 6:51:26 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (http://www.muckety.com/7BECFF40501E647D3741343C37265A57.map)
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To: mondoreb

31 posted on 09/23/2009 6:52:44 PM PDT by edzo4 (NoBama 2012)
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To: BunnySlippers

ACORN, in Maryland, appears to be a corporate non-entity since last year.


32 posted on 09/23/2009 6:53:31 PM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: pissant

Well, welcome back. I still believe Larry Sinclair is telling the truth.
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With the sleazy, current administration......I do, too. I’ve never seen ANYTHING like it in my life. ‘Anything goes’ with these people. Sickening.


33 posted on 09/23/2009 6:53:41 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (http://www.muckety.com/7BECFF40501E647D3741343C37265A57.map)
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To: mondoreb


34 posted on 09/23/2009 6:53:46 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

I assure you that O’Keefe and Giles will NOT declare bankruptcy. This will be decisive victory for Breitbart and the crew.


35 posted on 09/23/2009 6:53:50 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: 444Flyer

Prayers for Breitbart!


36 posted on 09/23/2009 6:54:17 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
I wouldn't trust Obama to defend me on a parking ticket.

Unless he had a teleprompter. Then it would be a tough call.

37 posted on 09/23/2009 6:54:51 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: pissant

Thanks again.

Last I heard, Sinclair was in some southern state, continuing his battle for truth, justice and Larry.

I’ll be here a couple days/week and weekends until after first of year and then it will be pretty much full-time again.

It’s good to be back!


38 posted on 09/23/2009 6:55:52 PM PDT by mondoreb (Proud to be "half-baked".)
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To: mondoreb

I wonder why is he holding back the rest of the videos?


39 posted on 09/23/2009 6:56:01 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Heads up.


40 posted on 09/23/2009 6:56:01 PM PDT by amom
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