Posted on 09/23/2009 7:28:59 PM PDT by HogsBreath
They care not one whit about law, constitution, or anything else. For the ATF, the courts, and the central government in general, the law is the king speaking. They do what they want, where they want, when they want, and woe be to anyone who stands in their way. They do not respect law. Their law is the point of a bayonet. And they have no qualms in using their bayonets.
I remember there being a case where the government tried to argue that guns shouldn’t be allowed in schools on the basis of interstate commerce. Their justification was that guns at schools would frighten children which would lead to poorer grade performance which would produce a less educated labor force which would affect interstate commerce.
These would be the states that actually WANT to have things done right by the Constitution (and the bill of rights). MAybe add a couple amendments that explicitly talk about gun ownership as an inalienable right.
Smoothbore black powder cannons aren’t “firearms” apparently, and otherwise fit your criteria.
As more states pass this law, this will get the attetion of the Supreme Court. I’ve heard on the Beck show that some of the Justices have expressed negative comments about the Interstate Commerce ruling in the 1940’s. (30s?).
Well said. Do you not feel sometimes as if you're standing in a Sons of Liberty meeting in 1775 and speaking about the British?
“They care not one whit about law, constitution, or anything else. For the ATF, the courts, and the central government in general, the law is the king speaking. They do what they want, where they want, when they want, and woe be to anyone who stands in their way. They do not respect law. Their law is the point of a bayonet. And they have no qualms in using their bayonets.”
As the government initiated serial and mass homicides at Ruby Ridge and Waco so amply demonstrated.
“Well said. Do you not feel sometimes as if you’re standing in a Sons of Liberty meeting in 1775 and speaking about the British?”
Yes.
The Founding Fathers would look at that the ATF HQ building and say “The Bureau of what?”
Any undertaking of a size where invoking eminent domain came into question would tempt Commerce Clause intervention. If Congress had the nads to treat that the same way it treats the War On Some Drugs.
If the Founders had known the government would eventually use force like that against its own citizens, I’m not sure we wouldn’t be British right now.
The commerce clause was meant to keep states from imposing trade barriers with regards to each other. The word “regulate” meant “to keep regular”.
Exactly So.
In other words, The Commerce Clause was instituted in order to Maintain commerce, Not restrict it.
It has been perverted.
Great post. I can actually see them standing there, staring at it and each other... and then Jefferson mutters, "I got a bad feeling about this..."
‘The Founding Fathers would look at that the ATF HQ building and say “The Bureau of what?”’
The Founders would burn that building down.
Not sure where Beck is getting that. AFAIK, Justice Thomas is the only justice who has called the Wickard decision an error. I don't know where Alito and Roberts stand, but Wickard has a solid six votes. Unfortunately, Justice Scalia is among he six.
see post #51 for Thomas v Scalia on the Commerce Clause.
Um, yeah there is. They could become a colony of Texas. :D
As for the Rust Belt? Sorry, you guys and your unions brought this upon the country, we don’t want you around.
Hope you saved your Confederate money; the South *will* rise again.
Wait till the Governor invokes the 10th Amendment: then the showdown: Do tell state police to arrest ATF agents which dissobey the law.. (pass the popcorn..this could get interesting).
I recall some thinking LE would not enforce unConstitutional law. Here’s your sign!
To quote an old Motorhead song: “Just cos you got the power, that don’t mean you got the right.”
Fed can suck it! Let them try to enforce their bogus authority over Tennessee. It won’t be pretty and Zero will tell his ATF people to back down when the poll numbers show his approvals tanking even more than they are now.
...it grew out of the abuse of the power by the importing States in taxing the non-importing, and was intended as a negative and preventive provision against injustice among the States themselves, rather than as a power to be used for the positive purposes of the General Government, in which alone, however, the remedial power could be lodged.
Full text of the letter here:
http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_3_commerces19.html
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