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Let women work on subs, Navy secretary says
usatoday.com ^ | 9/24/09 | William H. McMichael and Andrew Scutro, Navy Times

Posted on 09/24/2009 10:20:38 PM PDT by Nachum

Edited on 09/25/2009 6:37:36 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhodod; let; militarywomen; submarine; subs; usnavy; women; work
Ah, now we know why Mabus got the nod for the Navy Sec. job.

Link to USA Today reprint of the Navy Times article below-

1 posted on 09/24/2009 10:20:38 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2009-09-24-women-submarines_N.htm


2 posted on 09/24/2009 10:20:59 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping


3 posted on 09/24/2009 10:21:23 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

What?! Lock women in a sub full of sea-men? (Sorry, couldn’t resist)


4 posted on 09/24/2009 10:22:18 PM PDT by ironwill (III - Molon Labe)
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To: Nachum

I have no problem with women in the military, but I see only bad things coming from this....
Too close, too confined quarters.

And I think everybody here knows what they don’t publicize about women on Warships.


5 posted on 09/24/2009 10:22:20 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Nachum

It won’t work. It never has and it never will. Too much sexual tension down there. Fer Crissakes...can’t they use their common sense?? SSZ


6 posted on 09/24/2009 10:23:03 PM PDT by szweig (Had it up to here)
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To: Nachum

>> now we know why Mabus got the nod for the Navy Sec. job.

Bingo!


7 posted on 09/24/2009 10:23:08 PM PDT by QBFimi2 (Ve are the New World Order; ve bring to the world dis-order. Spike Jones, 1943.)
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To: Nachum

It will give new meaning to hot racks....that’s for sure. Bunch of maroons.


9 posted on 09/24/2009 10:25:44 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Nachum

I will not insult women or submariners by making the obvious references to “bubbleheads” or “...going down!”

On a serious note, there is a nice little memorial to submariners on the mainland side of the Cape Cod Canal. It makes you stop and think what a great country we are (were?).


10 posted on 09/24/2009 10:26:28 PM PDT by Former War Criminal (My soon-to-be senior Senator said so.)
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To: szweig

These @sshats know exactly what they are doing. This is purely at attack against our military for the purpose of weakening this nation.


11 posted on 09/24/2009 10:26:56 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: Nachum

I’d like to hear sub-driver’s thoughts (however he spells his name).


12 posted on 09/24/2009 10:27:39 PM PDT by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: tcrlaf

The ladies will make A LOT of money.


13 posted on 09/24/2009 10:28:11 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: ironwill
Submarine Sex. That will be group sex, because of confined quarters on a sub.

This is not a good idea, even having female pheromes circulating in the ventilating system of subs with men on board for months at a time, is not a good idea.Unless you have equal numbers of women and men who pair off as seaman couples.Thats the only way it would work as well as what we have now in the submarine service, in terms of operational functionality.

Its idiotic to put women on a sub, unless its ALL women.

14 posted on 09/24/2009 10:31:37 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: Nachum

Don’t they have cabin boys?


15 posted on 09/24/2009 10:42:28 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Nachum

Not a good idea...lead nothing but to trouble.


16 posted on 09/24/2009 10:46:03 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Candor7

>> having female pheromones circulating in the ventilating system ... is not a good idea. Unless you have equal numbers of women and men ...

You are a wise man, sir. In the ‘70s, I flew DC-8s for an American a charter carrier. At one time the company flew B-727s for their Caribbean trips. The planes were crewed with three pilots and three flight attendants. To put it mildly, a good time was had by all (except spouses).

Some years later I had a series of long layovers in Dakar; one of the pilots had brought his wife with him. At some point she confided: “Poor Fred, he always came home sooooo exhausted. Those -727 trips took so much out of him”. We all bit our tongues and said nothing.


17 posted on 09/24/2009 10:51:12 PM PDT by QBFimi2 (Ve are the New World Order; ve bring to the world dis-order. Spike Jones, 1943.)
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To: tcrlaf

Women on warships get knocked up, and they charge their superiors with sexual harassment. I see more of the same coming from women in subs. It’s another social experiment. Things are tried out in the military before they are tried out on the rest of us, e.g. integration. It’s about breaking down bourgeois social barriers — taking away privacy, respect for others, the sanctity of sex within marriage. This will degrade professionalism in the subs and take away from operational efficiency. It will just be a big distraction and open another can of worms (and cheese).


18 posted on 09/24/2009 10:51:26 PM PDT by Judges Gone Wild (Who is this uncircumcised, to oppose the armies of The Living God?)
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To: Morgana

Yeah....the men just can’t be trusted.


19 posted on 09/24/2009 10:59:08 PM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: QBFimi2
The mile high club, is about to be joined by the 40,000 leagues under the sea club.

LOL.

20 posted on 09/24/2009 11:13:38 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: Nachum

A monumentally, epically stupid idea.


21 posted on 09/24/2009 11:38:50 PM PDT by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: Nachum

Because pregnancy and sexual harrassment aren’t any kind of a problem...


22 posted on 09/24/2009 11:55:40 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Nachum

I’ll feel really bad for the poor guys doing the Laundry.

Nothing worse that picking up a stiff towel when you’re loading the Washing Machine.


23 posted on 09/25/2009 12:01:54 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Conservatives THINK people are smart. Liberals KNOW people are stupid.)
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To: Judges Gone Wild
Women on warships get knocked up, and they charge their superiors with sexual harassment. I see more of the same coming from women in subs. It’s another social experiment.

I don't think its an experiment. I think they're counting on certain results...

24 posted on 09/25/2009 12:02:10 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Nachum
"I believe women should have every opportunity to serve at sea, and that includes aboard submarines,"

No problem.

Just give women their own subs.

Heck--go all the way: give women their own navy.

Just like with girl scouts and boy scouts.

25 posted on 09/25/2009 12:35:56 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Nachum; lilycicero

I couldn’t help but notice the coincidental timing of the heat the “Bikini Baristas” have been taking of late, and these latest career opportunities ;~)


26 posted on 09/25/2009 1:11:14 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (Things that make you practice towel snapping.....)
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To: Nachum

Dumb idea.


27 posted on 09/25/2009 1:13:23 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Nachum
During sea trials I saw a sign on a door in a DDG once changed from "Female Berthing" to "Female Birthing".
28 posted on 09/25/2009 2:24:42 AM PDT by Vet_6780 ("I see debt people")
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To: ironwill

Gives a whole new meaning to “goin down”.


29 posted on 09/25/2009 3:18:49 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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To: Nachum

In a politically correct climate like we have today, this has even less of a chance of working.


30 posted on 09/25/2009 3:59:10 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama, you stop lying; we'll stop callin' you a LIAR.)
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To: Age of Reason

Mix women and gays on subs, perfect mix, won’t have to worry about privacy or pregnancy, can even paint the sub pink.


31 posted on 09/25/2009 4:05:36 AM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: Nachum
Let women work on subs,... "America Needs More Babies from Unwed Mothers" Navy secretary says

There, fixed it!

32 posted on 09/25/2009 4:11:11 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Thank you)
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To: Morgana; whatisthetruth
I have been on submarines. There have already been gay men on submarines but they didn't tell but we knew who they were.

Submarine duty is a hardship duty. It has limited space. When my wife packs for a trip she takes up most of the car. This is why women should never be on submarines. They require too much space, water, and electricity. Allo these items are limited on a submarine.

33 posted on 09/25/2009 4:19:36 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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To: Nachum
Does this clown car Mabus realize that they still hot bunk on some submarines?

Idiots!

34 posted on 09/25/2009 4:20:05 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Nachum
The U.S. Armed Forces are supposed to deter wars and, failing that, win them. They should not be used for social experimentation.

"Those are our subs now."

35 posted on 09/25/2009 4:45:17 AM PDT by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: Nachum
Ray Mabus is an idiot. He was an idiot when he was the Governor and an idiot when it came to common sense. I have a letter from him that says a lot of nothing when I asked him how he personally felt about the state flag. He would not stand on the issue and said that he had more important things to address...he lost because of this issue. Mabus is a typical low life crooked Mississippi lawyer...has no business as a Secretary of the Navy.
36 posted on 09/25/2009 5:29:17 AM PDT by vetvetdoug (FUBO....a fashion statement for Conservatives.)
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To: bmwcyle
i have been on submarines. There have already been gay men on submarines but they didn't tell but we knew who they were

Egads! What an uncomfortable situation to be forced to live in.

37 posted on 09/25/2009 6:32:40 AM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: bmwcyle

I am a Submarine Officer. We need every submariner that is assigned to our ship. If one submariner cannot meet their obligation to our ship, several other submariners will have to work much harder to complete their duties and watchstanding obligations. If women are going to be on submarines, they will be officers. They will have their own staterooms. It will be easier to develop a women’s officers corps. I can testify that one of the bigger concerns, is that when a woman gets pregnant, which many women do between 20-35, who will do their job?


39 posted on 09/25/2009 3:51:48 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: Nachum

Not good.


40 posted on 02/23/2010 5:26:58 PM PST by walsh
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To: vetvetdoug

His name truly is “Mabus” like in the Nostradamus prophecy????


41 posted on 02/23/2010 5:34:02 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Nachum; All
Obama’s first in a line of liberal-class submarines for our ‘sensitive’ Navy.

On a serious note, here is additional specific information:

Military.com

Besides the incoming officers from the academy, the first women submariners will include female supply corps officers at the department head level, Roughead said. The change will be phased in over time to include enlisted female sailors on the SSBN and SSGNs, he said. Women will be added to the Navy's SSN fast-attack submarines after necessary modifications can be determined, he said.

42 posted on 03/06/2010 10:55:12 PM PST by SloopJohnB (It it wasn't for Double Standards, the Left would have No Standards.)
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