Big turnout for the little Texan: Ron Paul at the U

The Minneapolis Star Tribune ^ | September 26, 2009 | Pat Doyle

[The Comedian]

(Personal attacks, mis-attributions, more personal attacks snipped)

You need to start with a remedial reading course. Grasping the most obvious meaning from very plainly-stated content apparently conflicts with your pre-determined conclusions, so you default to name calling and ridiculous hyperbole. Here's a great example:

“Actually understand human liberty?” What, you mean the liberty to use nukes to exterminate whole nations of people?

The liberty to respond to the initiation of force with overwhelming counter-force, unlimited to types or scale of technology.

If an individual, or an entire nation, is responsible for attempting to murder me (or my family or my neighbors), I have the right, and in fact duty, to use unlimited deadly force against that individual or nation.

If homocidal psychopaths aren't exterminated, they will kill others, and breed more psychopaths.

If you don't like it, complain to God - put in a request to change the gravitational constant and the speed of light while you're at it.

Now, quickly, call me a racist again, and invite to return to DU...

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[Poe White Trash]

>>> (Personal attacks, mis-attributions, more personal attacks snipped) <<<

Cf. your posts 12, 47, 148, 152 and your most recent post.

No, what I’ve presented is a straightforward and considered reaction to someone who has advocated genocide and “making an example” of Afghans (and unspecified Muslim and non-Muslim enemies) via H-BOMBING.

Such a policy of human extermination is not Conservative, and should be seen as being beyond the pale by anyone not consumed by a particularly vile ideology, irrationality, or a perverse desire to troll. I’m not a mind-reader, so I can’t say really say which descriptor best fits you. Which is it?

>>> If an individual, or an entire nation, is responsible for attempting to murder me (or my family or my neighbors), I have the right, and in fact duty, to use unlimited deadly force against that individual or nation. <<<

A “right” under what? The US Constitution? The Geneva Conventions, of which the US is a signatory? Rubbish. And I challenge you to come up with any natural right position which advocates the use of H-BOMBS (as you do) to exterminate people in order to make a “demonstration” (cf. the clear meaning of your Post #148). You’re talking nonsense.

>>> If homocidal psychopaths aren’t exterminated, they will kill others, and breed more psychopaths. <<<

“Breed”? Wow. More Social Darwinist claptrap. You’re incorrigible. Of course, exterminating “them” is OK because they are just “Devo,” (cf. your post 47) right?

>>> Now, quickly, call me a racist again, and invite to return to DU... <<<

Nah, why bother. Your own words indict you. You know where to go.

[The Comedian]

You need more red meat in your diet. Your tendency to intellectually wet yourself in the public forum detracts from whatever positive attributes you may possess. I don't know, maybe you have nice hair, or a great singing voice, but your "debate" and accusatory style bore the crud out of me.

Natural law sez: Initiation of force is morally countered with equal or greater force, as the original victim sees fit. It is immoral to allow a predator to continue to prey on the weaker, and it is the moral responsibility of the more powerful to restrain the predatory.

If you flew your Taliban-trained airplane pirate crew into my office building, I would drop a fusion warhead on your home base, or possibly on your capital city, and announce to the world that any future act of piracy and murder would result in the thermonuclear destruction of the perpetrator's home base, city, or nation, as I see fit.

Now begone, Sensitive New Age Guy.

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[Poe White Trash]

>>> Natural law sez: Initiation of force is morally countered with equal or greater force, as the original victim sees fit. It is immoral to allow a predator to continue to prey on the weaker, and it is the moral responsibility of the more powerful to restrain the predatory. <<<

Like I wrote earlier — your own words indict you.

[La Enchiladita]

A little understanding is in order: The Comedian obviously misses the Clown Posse.

[La Enchiladita]

The Comedian misses the Clown Posse, which bit the dust 1-2 years ago.

[The Comedian]

A little understanding is in order: The Comedian obviously misses the Clown Posse.

I love watching dimwits discuss me. It's the most intelligent subject likely to arise in their conversation.

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[The Comedian]

>>> Natural law sez: Initiation of force is morally countered with equal or greater force, as the original victim sees fit. It is immoral to allow a predator to continue to prey on the weaker, and it is the moral responsibility of the more powerful to restrain the predatory. <<<

Like I wrote earlier — your own words indict you.

For life of me, I can't figure out why morality born of rational reality is so offensive to you, and you consider it an "indictment".

But then again, I also don't care.

I've found studying pathological psychology to be a very fatiguing endeavor, so I'll just wish you well, and encourage you to seek professional help.

Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
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[Poe White Trash]

Are you still here?

>>> For life of me, I can’t figure out why morality born of rational reality is so offensive to you, and you consider it an “indictment”. <<<

Personally, I don’t understand how someone can believe that a “morality” born of the old German Rassenhygeine (or Volkseugenik) movement is scientifically rational, realistic, or Conservative.

What I find offensive is an ignorance of basic biology combined with a moral obtuseness, if not depravity, that would make the most hard-core “Cold Warrior” gag. What makes it doubly offensive is your insinuation that there is a significant connection between American Conservatism and this social darwininst nonsense. Any such a “connection” is tenuous at best; rabscuttle385 was correct — eugenic and “social darwinist” movements portrayed themselves as progressive, not traditional or conservative.

Either you’ve swallowed a Hofstadter-based parody of American Conservatism hook, line and sinker and are here to troll or you really believe this crap. Which is it?

[The Comedian]

Are you still here?

Yeah, and more popular than you! I bet that really stings.

Shallow folks synthesize a raison d'etre from the approval of a group, and I can see you think "Conservatives" are the group you're courting with your suicidal fantasies and ridiculous Pelosi-style "nazi" accusations.

Fortunately, you're all alone. And silly. And those two characteristics are not uncorrelated.

Now go read a science book. Or a philosophy summary. Or even just an article. Start with something very, very simple, and just sound out the larger words.

Then get back to me. Hopefully, you'll at least be able to parrot a higher, coherent thought, rather than spout your ad hominem nonsense.

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[Poe White Trash]

>>> ...ridiculous Pelosi-style “nazi” accusations. <<<

The Weimar-era Volkseugenik movement was Communist, not Nazi. A different species of the same kind of vileness. Look it up if you have any free time after trolling FR.

(A)

>>> Yeah, and more popular than you! <<<

(B)

>>> Shallow folks synthesize a raison d’etre from the approval of a group... <<<

LOL! You really ARE a comedian! Thanks for the chuckle.

[The Comedian]

Selective editing, ad hominem attacks, and ignorantly improper categorizations are well and truly the domain of the feeble-minded and disingenuous.

Would you classify your mental malady as being emotionally stunted, or intellectually dishonest? Perhaps both.

Either way, stop calling yourself a conservative. You are a retrograde, self-styled, faux intelligentsia pinata who, although fun to beat with a moral and intellectual stick, contains no treats as a reward for the effort.

Goodbye.

Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
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[Poe White Trash]

>>> Selective editing... <<<

Nonsense.

>>> ...ad hominem attacks... <<<

Not so much. Yet, a tactic you’re adept at.

>>> ... and ignorantly improper categorizations... <<<

You mean like your categorizing of the Afgans as sub-human “Devos” who are worthy of being exterminated by H-Bomb because of 9/11? I don’t think so.

>>> ...are well and truly the domain of the feeble-minded and disingenuous. <<<

“Feeble-minded”? There you go with your eugenic nomenclature again. Sigh.

>>> Would you classify your mental malady as being emotionally stunted, or intellectually dishonest? Perhaps both. <<<

I would classify my state of mind as “moral and intellectual disgust.” It’s a reaction to the depraved indifference to human death and suffering that underlies your position, the position that you appear to be advocating here. Whether your advocacy is honest, an example of trolling, or just a juvenile attempt to gain attention is a question only you can answer.

>>> You are a retrograde, self-styled, faux intelligentsia pinata who, although fun to beat with a moral and intellectual stick, contains no treats as a reward for the effort. <<<

You forgot to, once again, call me an employer of ad hominem attacks. LOL! And stop hitting yourself on the head with that stick. You might hurt yourself.

Trying to carry on a debate with you is about as enlightening as kicking a tin can. The best I could do is point out the obvious nonsense that you appear to be peddling.

>>> Goodbye. <<<

Adios, muchacha!