Is it not true that McCains birth on a US Military base is what makes him natural born and had his mother gone into labor and delivered while she was OFF base, he would not be natural born?
I guarantee if McCain had won, the left wouldn’t be making an issue of it for fear of elevating Sarah Palin to the presidency.
John McCain is a Natural Born US citizen since both his parents were of age and themselves US citizens. He could have been born on the Kabaala in Mecca and still be a Natural Born US citizen.
The questions concerning BHO are because his mother, though a US citizen, was not of age AND his father (whoever he may be) was not a US citizen ... so, if he was born outside the US, he would not have been a Natural Born US citizen.
Moreover, it is plausible and even likely that BHO took up Indonesian citizenship (& muslim religion) as evident in documents from his school days as well as in his travels to Pakistan at a time when US passport holders could not travel there.
“and had his mother gone into labor and delivered while she was OFF base,”
Well, actually, Mclame was born off base. He was born in the Colon Hospital. Because of that he was elegible for Panamanian citizenship at birth. Because of that, you can argue that he was not elegible to be POTUS. I believe that neither major party candidate was constitionally elegible. Good Job major parties!
BTW- just because the senate looked at this in committee and passed a resolution didn’t effect a thing. They can’t change the constitution with a senate resolution (thank God). This interpretation is the job of the SCOTUS, but they won’t take it.
What makes him Natural Born is that he is the child of TWO AMERICAN CITIZENS, both well over the age required to transfer citizenship regardless of where he was born.
Obama was not.
The meaning of "natural born" as stated in the US Constitution hasn't been contested/litigated, so the answer is "we don't know." In my opinion, he WOULD be, because the founders saw children born to citizen parents to be "natural born citizens," even if they were born abroad.
What is generally lost in the "birther" noise as generated by the lame media is the question of whether or not a DUAL citizen at birth satisfies the constitutional requirement. Obama is a self-admitted dual citizen at birth. Defenders of his legitimacy point to a post 14th amendment case, Wong Kim Ark, for the proposition that birth location is the ONLY thing that matters, and even a person born of two foreign parents, on vacation in the US, is a US-natural-born citizen. A cottage industry exists now, where Korean and Japanese families who are financially well-off, schedule birth vacations to the US, after which they take the baby home and raise them as Korean/Japanese natives - all the while having the status of "natural born American."
No, it's not true. Despite the Senate Resolution, and despite popular sentiment, children born abroad to U.S. citizens in the military are not natural born. There have been numerous attempts to put forth bills for a Constitutional Amendment to this end, as recently as 2003. But, none have been ratified.
“Is it not true that McCains birth on a US Military base is what makes him natural born and had his mother gone into labor and delivered while she was OFF base, he would not be natural born?”
No, he was born a mile away in Colon Panama, several years before the coco solo hospital was born. His birth record from the canal zone clearly states colon as place of birth.
Which I understand is exactly the case, he was born in a downtown hospital.
seems i recall a post here that showed McCain wasn’t born on post.
NO the established place, i.e. “Base” means nothing. Many small bases and military units over seas do not have facilities. Few realize it, but there are a lot of military bases CONUS that do not have medical facilities either. That is what CHAMPUS was/is for. The military member that serves where medical care is not available has CHAMPUS as the backup option. CHAMPUS provides payor responsibilities to the civilian community when care is not available. The parameter was a 25 mile radius without a military org. with full medical facilities.
Stationed at NAS Dallas we did not have a base hospital. We fell under CHAMPUS guidelines ... but we chose to use Carswell (a 40 mile drive) instead. Beat the hell out of more paperwork.
And our oldest daughter was born in Cebu .. she is a Natural U.S. Citizen, NO discrepancey about that at all.