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To: maryz
"What's a "climate change scientist"? Is that different from a climatologist?"

I think they call themselves Climate Scientists, though there is not yet any Climate Science that has produced a theory capable of accurate prediction. I like to think of "Science" as theories that are accurate to withing 1% of point. Engineering is practice to better than 10% of point. As of yet there is no "Climate Science", just scientists trying to develop same. They have a long way to go and given that the "system" (poorly defined by the lot of them) is likely chaotic are unlikely to get to <1% of point predictions.

12 posted on 09/29/2009 6:44:46 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

“I think they call themselves Climate Scientists, though there is not yet any Climate Science that has produced a theory capable of accurate prediction. I like to think of “Science” as theories that are accurate to withing 1% of point. Engineering is practice to better than 10% of point. As of yet there is no “Climate Science”, just scientists trying to develop same. They have a long way to go and given that the “system” (poorly defined by the lot of them) is likely chaotic are unlikely to get to <1% of point predictions.”

I think of a science in which a group of researchers generate testable hypotheses and then test them against reality. Then they honestly and accurately report the results.

By that standard, Climate Science fails the test of being a science.

I really don’t think the accuracy of the predictions has anything to do with it. A negative result is when your theory’s predictions are way off. Negative results are important scientific results.


15 posted on 09/29/2009 2:31:06 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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