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Marine accused of killing detainee gets plea deal ( Fallujah Action in 2004)
Breitbart ^ | Sep 29 01:31 PM US/Eastern | ELLIOT SPAGAT - AP

Posted on 09/29/2009 2:22:25 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. (AP) - A military judge has dismissed a murder charge against a Marine accused of killing an unarmed detainee in Iraq.

The charge against Sgt. Jermaine Nelson was dismissed Tuesday at Camp Pendleton after he agreed to plead guilty to dereliction of duty.

His attorney Joseph Low says the plea agreement calls for no prison time and an honorable discharge.

The 28-year-old Nelson could have faced up to life in prison if convicted of murder.

Nelson was among three Marines accused of killing detainees in 2004 during house-to-house fighting to recapture Fallujah.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fallujah; iraq; jermainenelson; marine
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1 posted on 09/29/2009 2:22:25 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Did the muj raghead need killin’??????????


2 posted on 09/29/2009 2:23:35 PM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
""We went into this house, there happened to be four or five guys in the house," Weemer said in a recording of the interview played during his trial. "We ended up shooting them, we had to." "

THAT's IT???????????? BASED ON THAT THEY FILE MURDER CHARGES??????????? WHAT THE F**** F***???????????

3 posted on 09/29/2009 2:26:21 PM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

When you are surrounded by the enemy you can’t take suicidal prisoners.


4 posted on 09/29/2009 2:28:42 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (It's a Girl!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; lilycicero; RedRover; smoothsailing; freema; Lancey Howard; Girlene; ...

Sgt. Nelson Ping!


5 posted on 09/29/2009 2:29:16 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
His attorney Joseph Low says the plea agreement calls for no prison time and an honorable discharge

In other words the JAG weenies folded.

6 posted on 09/29/2009 2:30:52 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: jazusamo; Ernest_at_the_Beach; lilycicero; RedRover; freema; Lancey Howard; Girlene

More here...

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/military/article_4cc1dbb7-c2b5-5f74-b8a5-aa7a415a4314.html


7 posted on 09/29/2009 2:35:37 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Mr. K

Haditha ring a bell?


8 posted on 09/29/2009 2:40:41 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: smoothsailing

This works for me. “Dereliction of duty” has become the equivalent of jaywalking in the military. It’s a slap-on charge in case the JAG scumbags need to beg for a morsel they can call a “victory”. It’s all about their future political careers as Democrat state reps and rat-appointed judges, don’t you know.


9 posted on 09/29/2009 2:48:35 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: nahanrac

Ping, cuz I don’t know if you are on the ping list.

How could anyone refuse to “plead guilty” w/no jail time..no felony..and re-enlist if you like?

He did what he had to do.


10 posted on 09/29/2009 2:49:29 PM PDT by lilycicero (*sigh*)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This plea deal to me means the government had nothing on this guy and was willing to let it all go for some cheap conviction.


11 posted on 09/29/2009 2:50:25 PM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: smoothsailing; lilycicero; Lancey Howard

He had to go with this plea deal, too much at stake if he didn’t. I’m glad he’ll be able to reenlist if he chooses to do so.


12 posted on 09/29/2009 2:54:31 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: lilycicero
How could anyone refuse to “plead guilty” w/no jail time..no felony..and re-enlist if you like?

Well... I thought that too. He is luck for the no prison thing.... no harm/no foul he can walk away from the Marines.

Then again he may be able to force through a re-enlistment package because they said he could re-enlist but, here is the catch, more than likely he'll receive an adverse fitrep. So, he is competing for prommotion in the largest MOS the Marine Corps has. He will have bad paperwork (strike one). Probably can't get a B Billet because he has bad paperwork (strike two). When matched against his peers he will never see SSGT. This is probably a career ender for him.

13 posted on 09/29/2009 2:55:54 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Not the best thing that could have happened but far from the worst.


14 posted on 09/29/2009 2:56:14 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Berlin_Freeper
When you are surrounded by the enemy you can’t take suicidal prisoners

He had three choices:


1. Escort the prisoner back to safe lines and have a high probability of getting yourself killed by the enemy.
2. Let the prisoner go free. Only 10 minutes prior this prisoner was trying to kill you and will try again if you set him free.
3. Kill him.

Those were his choices. I think he made the right choice.

15 posted on 09/29/2009 3:08:14 PM PDT by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Disgusting on the part of the prosecution. Prosecutors have an affirmative duty to present the truth of the matter before the court. Either they had nothing, which I suspect is the case, and IN WHICH CASE THEY WERE ETHICALLY BOUND TO DROP ALL CHARGES, or they had a real case which they did not have the integrity to prosecute.

Honorless vermin, in either scenario. Surely they will have a bright future on medical panels, with conscience free minds like this. Disgraceful. Dereliction of duty indeed.

In any event, applying domestic law enforcement standards and protocols in a combat environment is inane utopianism at best, and an intentional, treasonous attempt to undermine our troops’ safety and efficacy at worst.


16 posted on 09/29/2009 3:18:23 PM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’d give the Sgt. a medal.


17 posted on 09/29/2009 3:23:15 PM PDT by FES0844
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Wow. You can justify quite a bit with that sentiment.


18 posted on 09/29/2009 3:27:57 PM PDT by Storm Cloud
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To: Lancey Howard

It works for me too. There is no honor with the JAG here, or they would have just dropped all charges.

Nelson did what he had to do, and I respect him for it.


19 posted on 09/29/2009 3:30:30 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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THAT's IT???????????? BASED ON THAT THEY FILE MURDER CHARGES???????????


Well, no. There's more. He admitted that he knew that what he was doing was wrong and unlawful, but that he didn't want to go against the other sergeant.


In other words, he admitted participating in the shooting but didn't argue that he acted in self-defense or that the circumstances required that he make a split-second decision.

20 posted on 09/29/2009 3:57:05 PM PDT by Storm Cloud
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