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Congress’s Secret Plan to Pass Obamacare
Human Events ^ | September 29, 2009 | Brian Darling

Posted on 09/29/2009 8:19:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama and liberals in Congress seem intent on passing comprehensive health care reform, even though polls suggest it is unpopular with the American people. And despite the potential political risks to moderate Democrats, the President and left-wing leadership in Congress are determined to pass the measure using a rare parliamentary procedure.

The Senate plans to attach Obamacare to a House-passed non-healthcare bill. Ironically, nobody knows what that legislation looks like, because it has not yet been written. Yet many members plan to rubber-stamp Obamacare without reading or understanding the bill.

The Senate Finance Committee worked furiously last week to mark up a “conceptual framework” of health care reform. The committee actually rejected an amendment by Sen. Jim Bunning (R.-Ky.) to mandate that the bill text and a final cost analysis by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) be publicly available at least 72 hours before the Finance Committee votes on final passage.

The following four-step scenario describes one way liberals plan to work the rules in their favor to get Obamacare through the Senate:

Step 1: The Senate Finance Committee must first approve the marked-up version of Sen. Max Baucus’ (D.-Mont.) conceptual framework. Then Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D.-Nev.) can say that two Senate Committees have passed a health care bill, which will allow him to take extraordinary steps to get the bill on the Senate floor.

During the mark-up last week, members had difficulty offering amendments and trying to make constructive changed because they lacked actual legislative text and Baucus made unilateral last minute changes. For example, the AP reported that “under pressure from fellow Democrats, the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee decided to commit an additional $50 billion over a decade toward making insurance more affordable for working-class families.”

Step 2: Sen. Reid will take the final product of the Senate Finance Committee and merge it with the product of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee, which passed on a party-line vote in July.

Usually, a bill is voted out of committee, and then the Senate takes up the final product of the committee so that all 100 senators can have a hand in the process. With some help from the Obama administration, Reid will decide what aspects of the HELP and Finance Committee bills to keep.

Step 3: Now, Obamacare will be ready to hitch a ride on an unrelated bill from the House. Sen. Reid will move to proceed to H.R. 1586, a bill to impose a tax on bonuses received by certain TARP recipients. This bill was passed by the House in the wake of the AIG bonus controversy and is currently sitting on the Senate Legislative Calendar.

The move to proceed needs 60 votes to start debate. After the motion is approved, Sen. Reid will offer Obamacare as a complete substitute to the unrelated House-passed bill. This means that the entire healthcare reform effort will be included as an amendment to a TARP bill that has been collecting dust in the Senate for months.

Step 4: For this strategy to work, the proponents would need to hold together the liberal caucus of 58 Democrats (including Paul Kirk who was named last Thursday to replace Sen. Kennedy), and the two Independent senators (Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Bernie Sanders of Vermont). These members will have to all hold hands and vote against any filibuster. Once the Senate takes up the bill, only a simple majority of members will be needed for passage. It’s possible one of the endangered moderate Democrats, such as Sen. Blanche Lincoln (Ark.), could vote to stop a filibuster then vote against Obamacare so as not to offend angry constituents.

Once the Senate passes a bill and sends it to the House, all the House would have to do is pass the bill without changes and President Obama will be presented with his health care reform measure. If this plan does not work, the Senate and House leadership may go back to considering using reconciliation to pass the legislation.

Adopting this secret plan will not strike most Americans as a transparent, bipartisan, effective way to change how millions of Americans get their health care.

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Brian Darling is director of U.S. Senate Relations at The Heritage Foundation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: agenda; congress; corruption; democrats; healthcare; obama; obamacare; socializedmedicine; uscongress
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Go right ahead, if you want millions of people in the streets!!
1 posted on 09/29/2009 8:19:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Times will report it as “thousands”...


2 posted on 09/29/2009 8:21:21 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 251 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hmm! Hmmm! Hmmm! Barack Hussein Obama!


3 posted on 09/29/2009 8:22:08 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is no way they hold the 58 Dems and 2 Indy’s together. Ben Nelson D-NE has already said no.


4 posted on 09/29/2009 8:22:11 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have no doubt in my former military mind that the ObamaComs will get their CommieCare and we can’t stop them. If they don’t pass CommieCare, they won’t be getting that 50% non-American vote in 2010.


5 posted on 09/29/2009 8:23:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I don't remember Americans being called "racists" when we fought against Hillarycare.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And despite the potential political risks to moderate marxists Democrats, the President and left-wing leadership in Congress are determined to pass the measure using a rare parliamentary procedure.

There, FIXED!

We protested in peace last time. Next time you won't be so lucky!

FRIGGIN NO GOOD TRAITORS!

6 posted on 09/29/2009 8:24:38 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: All

BOHICA...


7 posted on 09/29/2009 8:26:20 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tar and Feather the S.O.B.’s.


8 posted on 09/29/2009 8:26:31 PM PDT by DHSMostWanted (A Sex Offender is still a Sex Offender, even if he has an Oscar.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...
The list, ping

Obama, you beautiful son of a bitch- WE READ YOUR BOOK

9 posted on 09/29/2009 8:27:32 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Liberals are good and one thing, and that is playing dirty. Rahm will push what he needs to through somehow, someway. The dem moderates are just as squishy as RINOs are. Conservatives will get power back in the next 2-4 years. Maybe by then they will have a spine and play hardball like the liberals.
10 posted on 09/29/2009 8:27:50 PM PDT by mrsixpack36
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
tep 1: The Senate Finance Committee must first approve the marked-up version of Sen. Max Baucus’ (D.-Mont.) conceptual framework.

Rule 4 of the Rules of Procedure for the Senate Finance Committee reads: "Rule 4. Quorums. - (a) Except as provided in subsection (b) one-third of the membership of the committee, including not less than one member of the majority party and one member of the minority party, shall constitute a quorum for the conduct of business." That means, at least one Republican Senator on the Finance Committee needs to be in attendance in order to pass any legislation out of committee.

In other words, 10 Republican Senators (Charles Grassley, Orrin Hatch, Olympia Snowe, Jon Kyl, Jim Bunning, Mike Crapo, Pat Roberts, John Ensign, Mike Enzi and John Cornyn) could stop ObamaCare cold right now by simply saying they will not support it under any circumstances. If those 10 Senators would simply say "no," and deny Democrats on the Finance Committee a quorum; ObamaCare would be done... finished... it would die in committee...

Contact those 10 Republicans to demand they not particpate in a quorum to vote any health care mark up out of committee. Toll free numbers to the Capital switchboard are below.

800-833-6354
866-340-9281
877-762-8762
866-808-0065
888-355-3588
866-220-0044
800-862-5530
877-851-6437
800-417-7666
11 posted on 09/29/2009 8:28:49 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Agreed. Let them play their cards as they see fit.
At the same time, they had better be aware of the coming consequences if they do such.

Personally, I will so deliciously enjoy watching the Democratic Party implode.


12 posted on 09/29/2009 8:29:09 PM PDT by cranked
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To: unixfox

Traitors! You are absolutely correct. No other word describes it. And there are penalties for Treason.


13 posted on 09/29/2009 8:29:41 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. -Sam Houston)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
People don't understand that this has absolutely nothing to do with healthcare, per se.

The Federal government used to steal money out of the Social Security and Medicare trust funds, but those wells are running dry - especially with recent unemployment figures.

What does this mean? It means that the government needs to create a new GIGANTIC trust fund that they can steal your health care payments from. Please realize, we're talking around 18% of our entire economy.

It the Federal government fails to create this, then they will be in imminent danger of financial collapse. They will need to cut expenses like nobody's business.

Will the government cut expenses? Probably not. If the health care trust fund fails then they will have little choice but to go after our 401K retirement funds - moving them into a Federal government controlled entity for "our protection".

Prepare folks...it's going to happen.

14 posted on 09/29/2009 8:30:08 PM PDT by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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To: PhiKapMom

I’ve learned to never trust Nelson. I will make sure he does not get reelected in 2012 even if I have to run against him myself.


15 posted on 09/29/2009 8:31:02 PM PDT by DHSMostWanted (A Sex Offender is still a Sex Offender, even if he has an Oscar.)
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To: cranked

To rid the Congress of so many avowed commies and scoietal engineering fascist will require people going to the polls in outrageously astonishing numbers. Think about what keeps sending Maxine Waters, Barbara Boxer, Patrick Leahy, Chuck Schumer, Alcee Hastings, John Conyers, Harry Reid, Barney Frank, etc. back to office time after time ... there aren’t enough alive bodies in those districts to vote these scum out!


16 posted on 09/29/2009 8:34:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

AMF, Senators.


17 posted on 09/29/2009 8:34:35 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Go right ahead, if you want millions of people in the streets!!

I don't profess to know what their real reasoning/plan is, but I am afraid that they don't care if that results. I think they may view it as working in their favor either way. Should the people simply accept it, they are good. Should there be serious civil disobedience, draconian actions suppressing civil liberties will taken. Which I think they also view as in their favor because they have no intention of relinquishing power anyway.

IMO, if they ram it through as described, rebellion should be the response. Unfortunately, I don't believe enough people are at that point. A lot of grumbling and peaceful demonstrations, and that's it.

Vote a bunch of them out next year. BFD. Whatever they enact will NEVER be rescinded. They know that and are willing to risk it. Even if the Republicans were to take control of congress then, the Dems will still have won, because with the takeover of medical care, conservatism will never come back. The Republicans will be nothing more than watered down versions of the Dems, just promising more efficient fascism.

18 posted on 09/29/2009 8:34:54 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: politicket

Will the government cut expenses? Probably not. If the health care trust fund fails then they will have little choice but to go after our 401K retirement funds - moving them into a Federal government controlled entity for “our protection”.

CERTAINLY won’t be encouraging for anyone to add to or open a 401K. Where did you read this news?


19 posted on 09/29/2009 8:36:11 PM PDT by Achilles Heel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; FlingWingFlyer; altair; stephenjohnbanker; little jeremiah; ~Kim4VRWC's~; ...

Off topic, but important, ping.


20 posted on 09/29/2009 8:37:05 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wouldn’t this get a SCOTUS challenge?

People who vote against 3200 in the House would have their votes recorded as “aye.”

Thats going to make some blue dogs so mad they’ll bolt the party.


21 posted on 09/29/2009 8:38:28 PM PDT by cookcounty (Videos? What videos? ....The First ACORN President has no comment.)
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I thought all spending and tax bills have to ORIGINATE in the House of Representatives..


22 posted on 09/29/2009 8:39:39 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Nachum
Yes, I believe he will. As I have said before, even if he had only 20% support in the polls, he will push through the legislation.

Controlling healthcare is at the heart of a true communist's agenda, and he won't stop until he gets it.

23 posted on 09/29/2009 8:40:47 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Controlling healthcare is at the heart of a true communist's agenda, and he won't stop until he gets it

We can fight this. The fact this story is out means they can fail.

24 posted on 09/29/2009 8:42:57 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Achilles Heel
CERTAINLY won’t be encouraging for anyone to add to or open a 401K. Where did you read this news?

I didn't. It's just a logical conclusion from many years of being involved in the financial industry, along with the following facts:

  1. Our country is in a deflationary spiral. The amount of monetary collapse is far greater than the new amount of money that the Federal government is pumping into the system.
  2. The Federal government has to get its money from somewhere. It they can't steal it from the existing trust funds anymore, and tax revenue is dropping like a rock, then where are they going to find it? They can't sell enough Treasury securities to make up the difference - especially since those Treasury securities are being used to offset the tremendous credit collapse that is occurring throughout our country and the developed world.

25 posted on 09/29/2009 8:43:03 PM PDT by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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To: D-fendr
I thought all spending and tax bills have to ORIGINATE in the House of Representatives.

Has nothing to do with spending, and tax.

It's FREE healthcare. See ?

Obama even said so.

26 posted on 09/29/2009 8:48:38 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Nachum

I pray you are right.


27 posted on 09/29/2009 8:53:20 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas

Heads up.


28 posted on 09/29/2009 8:57:00 PM PDT by amom
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To: Nachum

i think the line was “magnificent,” but, no matter, obama is neither.


29 posted on 09/29/2009 9:01:04 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("Isn't the Golden Mean the secret to something," I parried? "Yes," Blue replied. "Mediocrity.")
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To: DHSMostWanted

I will support a run against him and bet a lot of others will as well — you are right he cannot be trust.


30 posted on 09/29/2009 9:01:57 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: the invisib1e hand
i think the line was “magnificent,” but, no matter, obama is neither.

Feel free to substitute any expletive of your choice :)

31 posted on 09/29/2009 9:04:41 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This time 5-10 freaking million!


32 posted on 09/29/2009 9:05:14 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Aren't you the blue-bird of happiness and forward-thinking.

If the citzens revolt, there will be no repercussions because the lamp-posts will be heavy with those that would repercuss. Out here in fly-over country, folks are getting PO'ed. And we're talking about folks that nut cattle every day, or shoot a stray or rattlesnake in the normal course of business. We're not scared. We've got all the cattle equipment, including pliars and bands. We can handle Congress Assembled.

"Push 'em through the gate" "Don't bunch 'em up" "Hit 'em with the HotShot(tm)! "

/johnny

33 posted on 09/29/2009 9:06:08 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Nachum

“We can fight this. The fact this story is out means they can fail. “

B U M P


34 posted on 09/29/2009 9:06:14 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

The Millions of Minutemen March?


35 posted on 09/29/2009 9:10:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This would be an act of war against the American people.


36 posted on 09/29/2009 9:35:54 PM PDT by JoSixChip (The only thing broken in this country is the government.)
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To: politicket
Our country is in a deflationary spiral. The amount of monetary collapse is far greater than the new amount of money that the Federal government is pumping into the system.

Could you explain, to a complete dolt, the difference between monetary collapse and gov. printed "faux" money? If the government is printing more money at the same time the currency is collapsing, in value I assume, then inflation, not deflation should result.

But you say we're in a deflationary spiral, which I would assume means prices decreasing, which would shore up the purchasing power of the dollar. (Or have I got the Corse before the hart? )

I know I'm missing something, and would appreciate some help.

Thanks,
Tom

37 posted on 09/29/2009 9:44:32 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: MHGinTN
To rid the Congress of so many avowed commies and scoietal engineering fascist will require people going to the polls in outrageously astonishing numbers.

Most important: keep track that the rats don't get away with back-funding ACORN - like this new $900,000+ they're getting from FEMA??? (The reason they all so quickly voted to defund ACORN was that they have many other money pipe-lines to fund their programs, especially in voter fraud.)

And funneled through their sister outfits, which were systematically set up just in case ACORN got caught up with.

ACORN and affiliate outfits have been handing elections to the rats...

There are a lot more of us in the country than they - or we - think.

How else to account for the huge ratings for FOX, Rush et al versus the lib outlets?

And do you think the libs could ever have gotten all those people in DC? They have to pay people to rally - and they can't pay that many.

38 posted on 09/29/2009 9:48:02 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" LINCOLN)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

DAMN RIGHT~~~~~~~


39 posted on 09/29/2009 9:52:11 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: politicket

It they can’t steal it from the existing trust funds anymore, and tax revenue is dropping like a rock, then where are they going to find it? They can’t sell enough Treasury securities to make up the difference - especially since those Treasury securities are being used to offset the tremendous credit collapse that is occurring throughout our country and the developed world.


The governments only option is to inflate the currency. They will not be able to pay for the spending through tax increaes. Just isn’t enough money out there to take from producers in the economy. Inflation is coming and is really the only solution(sadly).


40 posted on 09/29/2009 9:56:34 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: cornfedcowboy
The governments only option is to inflate the currency. They will not be able to pay for the spending through tax increaes. Just isn’t enough money out there to take from producers in the economy. Inflation is coming and is really the only solution(sadly).

I understand what you're saying, but it's incorrect in my opinion. Here's why:

Money is the same as debt. It's just a representation of debt. And debt is just a claim on future labor.

Let me put it another way:

When you get a paycheck, your employer is simply transferring a certain amount of claims on future labor (money) that it owns to you - so now you are the "master" over those claims on future labor.

Debt is also claims on future labor. Money is just what we use to trade those claims around with, because it is convenient.

In other words, debt = money and money = debt.

We've heard about the huge contraction in debt that our economy is experiencing from enormous numbers of loans going into default.

Every dollar of debt that defaults and disappears also means that a dollar of "money" has disappeared - because money = debt.

What happens when you have a big decrease of money for approximately the same amount of goods/services? You get deflation. The money becomes harder to get, but it buys more. Deflation also makes existing debt more difficult to pay off, since it takes more labor to earn a dollar - even though a dollar will buy more.

The Federal government is issuing debt as fast as it can to try and balance out the avalanche occurring on the other side of our nation's balance sheet. The government is the only entity that can create new "base debt" into the system. After it gets introduced then banks can create more debt (money) by making loans. But those new loans cannot be made without the Federal government issuing the new debt first.

Inflation can only happen if the Federal government issues more debt (and the banks make tons of loans off of that new debt) in order to overcome the debt destruction that is occurring.

It's not going to happen. We are in a deflationary spiral for the next 8 to 10 years.

Cash is king. Gold and silver are good hedges, but I firmly believe they will be dropping significantly in value (along with all other commodities). Expect gold to drop below $800/oz and silver to go below $10/oz

41 posted on 09/29/2009 10:10:23 PM PDT by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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To: tsomer

See post #41...


42 posted on 09/29/2009 10:11:47 PM PDT by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
IMO, if they ram it through as described, rebellion should be the response. Unfortunately, I don't believe enough people are at that point. A lot of grumbling and peaceful demonstrations, and that's it.

Perhaps you overlook the problems incurred by the implementation of the act itself. It's guaranteed to be chaos ... then what?

43 posted on 09/29/2009 10:52:50 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: politicket

“Cash is king. Gold and silver are good hedges, but I firmly believe they will be dropping significantly in value (along with all other commodities). Expect gold to drop below $800/oz and silver to go below $10/oz”

But where to keep it? In the freezer, lol? Also, what currency?


44 posted on 09/30/2009 12:37:47 AM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

tep 1: The Senate Finance Committee must first approve the marked-up version of Sen. Max Baucus’ (D.-Mont.) conceptual framework.

Rule 4 of the Rules of Procedure for the Senate Finance Committee reads: “Rule 4. Quorums. - (a) Except as provided in subsection (b) one-third of the membership of the committee, including not less than one member of the majority party and one member of the minority party, shall constitute a quorum for the conduct of business.” That means, at least one Republican Senator on the Finance Committee needs to be in attendance in order to pass any legislation out of committee.

In other words, 10 Republican Senators (Charles Grassley, Orrin Hatch, Olympia Snowe, Jon Kyl, Jim Bunning, Mike Crapo, Pat Roberts, John Ensign, Mike Enzi and John Cornyn) could stop ObamaCare cold right now by simply saying they will not support it under any circumstances. If those 10 Senators would simply say “no,” and deny Democrats on the Finance Committee a quorum; ObamaCare would be done... finished... it would die in committee...

Contact those 10 Republicans to demand they not particpate in a quorum to vote any health care mark up out of committee. Toll free numbers to the Capital switchboard are below.

800-833-6354
866-340-9281
877-762-8762
866-808-0065
888-355-3588
866-220-0044
800-862-5530
877-851-6437
800-417-7666


What is your opinion on this? I’ve gotten a couple of emails the last day or so. This seems so simple... why not try it?


45 posted on 09/30/2009 12:38:44 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: FreeStateYank
But where to keep it? In the freezer, lol? Also, what currency?

It would be really nice if there was a "bank" that could keep cash safe, and charge a fee for the service.

This bank would not be able to lend the money out, it would just be safe in their vault.

The owner of the money could then decide what investment strategies they wanted to do with their capital, and banks wouldn't be able to use that money as part of their fractional reserve to enslave others to debt.

It would be the same concept as a storage facility for your household goods - except it would be to store your money.

I'm not sure what you mean by "what currency". If you mean whether to hold U.S. dollars versus another currency then I would tend to hold the dollars.

46 posted on 09/30/2009 1:01:00 AM PDT by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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To: politicket

I like your banking idea, although I don’t mind fractional reserve banking [but not as highly leveraged as most have done], it would be best if saving and lending was done on a very local level. Just like credit unions were supposed to work.

Interestingly, a small bank in CT or RI hadn’t had any defaults as of a couple months ago. Why? They didn’t lend to deadbeats and/or those with insufficient down payment. The bank Presidents reward? He was chastised by Fed authorities for not lending enough. Unbelievable.

I was asking about USD vs. Aussie dollar for example [shoulda bought at .64] So I take it you think the dollar will strengthen?

Cheers!


47 posted on 09/30/2009 3:39:41 AM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...a conceptual framework of healthcare reform...”

That’s brilliant liberal-speak for passing it without writing it and writing it after it’s passed, in secret, to avoid the criticism and backlash of the peasants.

IMHO


48 posted on 09/30/2009 4:17:00 AM PDT by ripley
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To: unixfox

“FRIGGIN NO GOOD TRAITORS”

Nah. Make that “FRIGGING NO GOOD TRAITOROUS SCU#BAGS”

IMHO


49 posted on 09/30/2009 4:19:51 AM PDT by ripley
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To: politicket

This is what we get for voting that ZEBRA bastard into office. Impeach it now.


50 posted on 09/30/2009 4:24:26 AM PDT by crazyotto
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