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Posted on 09/30/2009 9:22:58 AM PDT by Chet 99

Roman the Rapist

Susan Estrich

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He had sex with a 13-year-old girl. He got her to go to Jack Nicholson's house by promising that she would be in a photo shoot. When she got there, he fed her a Quaalude and alcohol -- champagne for a 13-year-old, how enticing -- and then he raped her.

Roman Polanski was on his way to a film festival in which he was to be honored for his life's work when he was arrested last weekend. Some 100 European big shots have released a statement in protest: "Filmmakers in France, in Europe, in the United States and around the world are dismayed by this decision. It seems inadmissible to them that an international cultural event, paying homage to one of the greatest contemporary filmmakers, is used by the police to apprehend him."

I've got news for the big shots: International cultural events are not safe havens for criminals, nor is there any reason they should be. A criminal is a criminal, even if he is "one of the greatest contemporary filmmakers." There's nothing "inadmissible" about it, guys.

His lawyer in France is even more strident: "There is no reason, either in law or in fact, nor on the terrain of the most elementary justice, to keep Roman Polanski in prison for even one day," Herve Temime told reporters.

Maybe I can help Mr. Temime a little bit here, with some law and some facts, and some elementary justice.

The reason to keep him in prison for far more than one day is that he's a rapist who fled from justice. Actually, that's two reasons, and each is sufficient.

Roman the Rapist pleaded guilty. This is not one of those stories where you need to insert an "alleged" or a "purported" before each sentence. This is not a "he said-she said." He was in his 40s. She was 13. He was a famous director. She was a child. He lied, lured and plied her with drugs and alcohol.

How about those facts, Mr. Temime?

Interviewed not long ago, the girl, now a woman, said she wanted to put the whole thing behind her. The rapist's "sympathizers" (that's what the press calls them) think that is enough. Wrong again.

Rape is a crime against the state, as well as a civil wrong against the individual. The victim is free not to pursue damages. That is her decision. Where victims refuse to cooperate, it is often difficult or impossible to secure a conviction, but cooperation is not a legal requirement. The state presses charges, not the victim. Polanski pleaded guilty to a crime against the state. It was "People v. Polanski." The People -- in this case represented by the district attorney of Los Angeles -- are not putting the whole thing behind them. Rightly so.

Polanski pleaded guilty assuming he wouldn't go to prison. I don't have any idea why a famous director who raped a 13-year-old after plying her with drugs and alcohol would assume that no punishment was in order, but he did. Celebrity justice maybe? Who knows and who cares?

When reality intervened and it became clear that a judge might well sentence him to time in prison, Polanski did not seek to withdraw his guilty plea and go to trial. He did not await the sentence and then appeal it. Free on bail pending sentencing, he decided to thumb his nose at the American justice system and flee the country. Fleeing from justice violates the "most elementary" principles of our legal system, to quote the misinformed Mr. Temime. It's every bit as serious as raping a 13-year-old.

For the past 30 years, Roman Polanski has been not just a convicted rapist but a fugitive from justice.

Yes, he's made some big films in those years. So what?

Yes, he's traveled freely across Europe during those years, living a very fancy and famous life without being arrested. So what?

There is no statute of limitations on fugitives.

The fact that he got away with it this long is not a reason to declare him innocent. He is a guilty man who fled from justice. It is time, past time, that he was returned.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: hollyweird; prorape; romanpolanski; sexoffender

1 posted on 09/30/2009 9:22:58 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

If he gets away with this, it means that you can do anything you want without fear of being prosecuted. The more our laws are violated without punishment, the more they will be violated.


2 posted on 09/30/2009 9:27:32 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Chet 99

Maybe Whoopi thinks Susan Estrich is a racist?


3 posted on 09/30/2009 9:28:18 AM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: Chet 99

For once I completely agree with Ms. Estrich.


4 posted on 09/30/2009 9:30:03 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: pgkdan

Same here.


5 posted on 09/30/2009 9:31:16 AM PDT by Sister_T
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To: Chet 99

I call her Screech. But she is right on this one.


6 posted on 09/30/2009 9:32:51 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Chet 99

If only Ms Estrich would apply this type of critical, no nonsense analysis to other legal, policy and political topics.


7 posted on 09/30/2009 9:32:57 AM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: Chet 99

I believe he sodomized the child also. And LOOK at who is defending him....ALL OF CORRUPT HOLLYWOOOD!


8 posted on 09/30/2009 9:33:31 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: frogjerk

Unlike Whoopi, Susan knows there is no difference between Rape and Rape-rape.


9 posted on 09/30/2009 9:33:57 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Chet 99

Bingo Susan. It is amazing how many celebs are openly supporting an admitted child rapist just because he is one of them. Wow!


10 posted on 09/30/2009 9:34:42 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Obamanos!)
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To: pgkdan

Yes. Not one word to object to: legally, morally, or even gramatically. Which is almost unprecedented for such a liberal writer. Good for her!


11 posted on 09/30/2009 9:35:43 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: massgopguy

I thought Ms. Estrich was one of Clinton’s big defenders, even in the case of Juanita Broaddrick. Or has memory failed me again?


12 posted on 09/30/2009 9:39:49 AM PDT by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: Chet 99
*Standing Ovation*

Susan, you knocked that one out of the park! Well done.

13 posted on 09/30/2009 9:41:11 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: Chet 99
"Had sex with" ...... what a guy

Roman Polanski: What Did He Do?

Last year, transcripts of Geimer's 1977 grand jury testimony, which resulted in six charges against Polanski, were made public. The transcripts include shocking details of 13-year-old Geimer testifying that the 43-year-old Polanski plied her with champagne and part of a Quaalude before performing oral, vaginal and anal intercourse on her, despite her demands to "keep away."

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14 posted on 09/30/2009 9:42:35 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Chet 99

The Flight to Avoid Imprisonment is a crime alone worth a year in jail.


15 posted on 09/30/2009 9:45:13 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: Chet 99

Just how many other young girls has he done this to in his 30 years of freedom? A pedophile not caught is still a pedophile.

16 posted on 09/30/2009 9:47:24 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Freedom is not free, it requires great sacrifice.The price is paid in blood.(Queen Gorgo:The 300))
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To: Ann Archy
I believe he sodomized the child also

Yes, he did ... wasn't sure she was on birth control:

Linky Thing:Grand Jury Transcripts Here - Smoking Gun

17 posted on 09/30/2009 9:52:18 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Obama has "Czars" because men with more integrity than he has still use the titles "Don" and "Capo")
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To: pgkdan

Susan Estrich, unless I am seriously and hideously mistaken, is a rape victim here self. Yes, whoopi, a REAL rape-rape.

So while I normally disgree with her- especially her support of Bill Clinton (ANOTHER accused rapist) she is right on the money here.

Too bad she cannot apply this same insightfulness to other liberal causes (like baby killing and death row murderers NON killing)


18 posted on 09/30/2009 9:53:10 AM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: Chet 99
Yes, he's traveled freely across Europe during those years, living a very fancy and famous life without being arrested. So what?

I know if that was my daughter, it would have been a very short fancy and famous life...

19 posted on 09/30/2009 9:53:42 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Chet 99
There is no reason, either in law or in fact, nor on the terrain of the most elementary justice, to keep Roman Polanski in prison for even one day," Herve Temime told reporters.

Someone check to see if he has an actual law degree...

20 posted on 09/30/2009 9:54:17 AM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: Chet 99

Estrich was singing a different tune about Bill Clinton and Juanita Broaddrick...

SUSAN ESTRICH RESPONDS TO JUANITA BROADDRICK’S OFFER TO SPEAK ABOUT HER RAPE — “not interested”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1506863/posts


21 posted on 09/30/2009 9:56:41 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Chet 99

Good for you Susan, you haven’t been swayed by who he is or what he has done. He plead guilty and then fled the punishment. Hopefully now he will serve his time plus that for fleeing.


22 posted on 09/30/2009 10:01:57 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: beachn4fun

Yes he did, “At 15 Natia Kinski began a romantic relationship with director Roman Polanski...”


23 posted on 09/30/2009 10:02:22 AM PDT by ynotjjr (Buckle up, it's going to be a bumpy ride...)
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To: Chet 99

If he was a Roman Catholic priest, the glitterati would be baying for his blood.


24 posted on 09/30/2009 10:02:25 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: Chet 99
Estrich is absolutely right. There isn't really any grey area on this one. And you can't just drop charges when the perp has already plead guilty to the crime.

Frankly I'm a little shocked at the number of luminaries who apparently feel either that special rules (extending to child rape?) should apply to special people, or that he got away with it and we shouldn't revisit the issue because it's old. Remember the names next time these people pose as avatars of morality with respect to other issues. "Yeah, Bush should go to jail for letting someone put water up a murderer's nose but child rape is OK if you're One Of Us." Right.

25 posted on 09/30/2009 10:02:31 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Chet 99

Doesn’t matter whether the victim forgave him or not; he still raped her; therefore doesn’t deserve a pass.


26 posted on 09/30/2009 10:06:27 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

To be fair, Juanity Broaddrick never submitted a complaint to the police. She missed her chance.


27 posted on 09/30/2009 10:07:47 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: karnage
"I thought Ms. Estrich was one of Clinton’s big defenders..."

She was. Apparently Polanskum hasn't done enough for abortion rights to merit Estrich's sympathy.

28 posted on 09/30/2009 10:10:28 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Chet 99

Birds of a feather flock together, is an old saying that comes to my mind when I hear all these hollywood & european big shots crying foul over this rapist finally being caught and jailed.

Just makes me wonder what they’ve been doing to young girls that they would see nothing wrong with a 13 year old being raped by this rapist.


29 posted on 09/30/2009 10:26:24 AM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.last.fm/user/GloriaJane)
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To: Ann Archy
I believe he sodomized the child also.

Yes, he did, evidently because she didn't remember exactly when her last period was because she was too drugged on Quaaludes and champagne.

30 posted on 09/30/2009 10:42:56 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Chet 99
His lawyer in France is even more strident: "There is no reason, either in law or in fact, nor on the terrain of the most elementary justice, to keep Roman Polanski in prison for even one day," Herve Temime told reporters.

Even if the woman is over seeing him see jail time, he is still due in a jail cell for jumping bail.

31 posted on 09/30/2009 11:01:11 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: GloriaJane

Well someone provided a young Drew Barrymore with drugs and alcohol at adult parties.


32 posted on 09/30/2009 11:03:26 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Billthedrill
And you can't just drop charges when the perp has already plead guilty to the crime.

The Obama Injustice Department did that in the Black Panther election day case.

33 posted on 09/30/2009 11:04:45 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Chet 99

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more perfect example of the left’s ideology concerning the rule of law vs. cult of personality.

The hollywood gliteratti are working under the assumption that since Polanski was so gifted, he should not face the full force of the law. Exactly what the left has in store for the rest of the country, if they are able to stack the courts as they now are attempting to do. There could be no more clear example of the axiom: Some people are more “equal” than others.


34 posted on 09/30/2009 12:39:36 PM PDT by krogers58
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To: 2banana

If that were my daughter, I’d be explaining to the nice officers how Mr. Polanski got that fatal bullet wound.


35 posted on 09/30/2009 12:45:55 PM PDT by SoKatt ("Change" is not a strategy!)
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To: Chet 99

A friend of mine went to school on the east coast with a guy who, after graduation, went out to Hollywood to work in costumes. Fifteen years later he came back east to visit (sometime in the mid 80s), visited her and her husband, admired their 2-year-old, and after the kid was in bed, the adults had a glass of wine and some conversation. One topic led to another — eventually he said huffily that he thought that having sex with young girls was an ok thing to do because his “friend” Jack Nicholson was into it. That was the last time they spoke to him, much less let him near their house.


36 posted on 09/30/2009 1:14:24 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("I apologize to hookers for having associated them with the House of Representatives.--Jim Traficant)
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To: Ann Archy

Oddly, the victim was quoted in Reuters as saying she didn’t think Polanski should be given any prison time.

Does anyone know what goes on, really?


37 posted on 09/30/2009 2:29:21 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru

I heard that she got some money....don’t know if its true.


38 posted on 09/30/2009 2:54:53 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Chet 99

Susan Estrich is my favorite liberal.

On most issues, she is pretty far to the left, but she is usually intellectually honest.


39 posted on 10/01/2009 7:01:00 AM PDT by kennedy (I'm a Kennedy with no experience or qualifications too! Where do I sign up for MY Senate seat?)
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