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(MI) Penske Terminates Saturn Talks
WXYZ-TV ^ | 09/30/09 | Various

Posted on 09/30/2009 1:53:31 PM PDT by Kieri

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Peachy.

AND Michigan's government is about to shut down. Again. Second time in three years.

1 posted on 09/30/2009 1:53:32 PM PDT by Kieri
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To: Kieri

I can remember going to that plant as a part of a “quality” study we were doing ... trying to emulate how well they did things. I can remember sitting in on some meetings and watching the process ... it was amazing. And now this ... how can something so exciting and efficient finally just fall off the table. Breaks my heart ... makes me wonder if that is the pattern for America today.


2 posted on 09/30/2009 1:55:55 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (The Patriot's Flag at http://www.thepatriotsflag.com/ - Starbucks or McDonalds)
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To: Kieri

“You’re not Penske Material”


3 posted on 09/30/2009 1:56:50 PM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: Kieri

Wouldn’t want to be in Spring Hill, TN today...


4 posted on 09/30/2009 1:57:31 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Kieri

As the owner and in effect Chairman of the Board, this is Obama’s fault.


5 posted on 09/30/2009 1:58:12 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Kieri

buh bye Saturn


6 posted on 09/30/2009 1:58:19 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Phantom Lord
As the owner and in effect Chairman of the Board, this is Obama’s fault.

Robert Gibbs: "That's above the president's pay grade."

7 posted on 09/30/2009 2:00:15 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Kieri

GM destroyed it’s other lineups providing financing for Saturn. It deliberately under-priced the vehicles, making it impossible for other GM brands to compete. It demanded huge land/building investments from would-be Saturn dealers. And now it is OB. Anybody still wonder how GM could go broke?? I dealt with these people as a Buick dealer for years and could write a friggin’ book about arrogance, stupidity, childishness etc.


8 posted on 09/30/2009 2:01:02 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Kieri

As a previous Saturn owner, I’m not at all saddened.


9 posted on 09/30/2009 2:01:45 PM PDT by TSgt (I long for Norman Rockwell's America.)
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To: Kieri
what a shame

But I was never a fan of the product or the business plan

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10 posted on 09/30/2009 2:02:02 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Phantom Lord

How is that government run GM auto manufacturing joke working out for you?


11 posted on 09/30/2009 2:02:04 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
I can remember going to that plant as a part of a “quality” study we were doing ... trying to emulate how well they did things.

If American auto manufacturers had just listened to Deming in the first place, they would have been the front-runners. Instead, we had to learn the same lessons secondhand from our Japanese competitors, to the degree they were learned at all.

12 posted on 09/30/2009 2:04:12 PM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: Kieri
Yeah, Peachy and Swell!

Wonder why they are saying this deal is with General Motors? I thought it was now gov motors.

13 posted on 09/30/2009 2:06:21 PM PDT by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: MikeWUSAF

Sorry to hear that. Our 2007 Ion runs just great.


14 posted on 09/30/2009 2:08:23 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: Oldpuppymax
It (GM) deliberately under-priced the vehicles...

I guess the GM subsidization of Saturn was the reason the other manufacturer (mentioned in quote from article below) refused to sign the supply agreement. They couldn't deliver at the GM price without GM subsidies.

"Penske said it had negotiated an agreement to source vehicles from another manufacturer, but the deal was rejected by the other automaker's board of directors."

Surprising that the Penske/Saturn deal makers and accountants didn't pick up on this deal buster sooner.

15 posted on 09/30/2009 2:17:02 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (For good judgment ask...What would Obama do? Then do the opposite!)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

I suspect that the UAW is a major reason for his decision. Unfortunately, everything that a union touches eventually dies unless some rat politician intervenes.


16 posted on 09/30/2009 2:17:18 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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“I suspect that the UAW is a major reason for his decision.”

Gee, I would have thought it might be bad management by GM.

— Uninspired products, using a lot of rebadging.

— Mid pack quality.

— Bad management decisions, over and over. Aztek, kill off the Camaro/Firebird with no replacements, etc.


17 posted on 09/30/2009 2:26:48 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: TChris
Well a man who not only knows "Who was the man that invented Quality" but also who did not want to learn from him...American managers. Good for you!!

His book "Out of the Crisis" has some tips on health care, but nobody even bothered to use his ideas until one hospital went to Toyota two years ago. By the way JM Juran did some nice work over in Japan too and his work is under used in America. Wonder why?

18 posted on 09/30/2009 2:33:13 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: truth_seeker

I do not doubt that GM management has made many mistakes. The biggest mistake was not confronting the UAW a long time ago. In any discussion of the auto industry, the UAW must be at the center of problems. How would you manage a company stifled with 2,000 pages of union contract details designed to reduce productivity? How would you manage a company with crushing retirement and medical costs? These costs were externally pushed on the auto industry by the UAW labor cartel, government agencies, and rat politicians. I would manage the company by moving it to places not touched by the UAW.


19 posted on 09/30/2009 2:37:01 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: businessprofessor

“The biggest mistake was not confronting the UAW a long time ago.”

I agree. That was the biggest mistake management made.


20 posted on 09/30/2009 2:52:31 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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