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Feds Ban Religious References on Capitol Christmas Tree Ornaments
kfyi ^ | 10/01/2009 | Kfyi

Posted on 09/30/2009 2:37:59 PM PDT by machogirl

The Alliance Defense Fund sent a letter to Governor Brewer and other officials saying that it goes against the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. By KFYI News

(KFYI News) Federal and Arizona officials, including Governor Brewer, were sent a letter by the Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) to stop enforcing a requirement banning kids from creating ornaments with religious themes for the 2009 Capitol Christmas Tree. Click here to read the entire letter.

Arizona was given the honor of providing Washington D.C. their annual Christmas tree and having schoolchildren from around the state decorate the tree with some 4,000 ornaments.

The children were given a list of specifications for how the ornaments should appear, including weight, size and how they "cannot reflect a religious or political theme."

The ADF argues in the letter that its a violation of First Amendment rights.

"Religious expression is speech and is entitled to the same level of protection as other kinds of speech."

Letter

http://www.kfyi.com/cc-common/mlib/622/09/622_1254267860.pdf


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adf; antichristmas; capitaltree; christmastree; firstamendment; purge; religion
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1 posted on 09/30/2009 2:38:00 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl
How is it a violation and My rights are being violated by these heathens.
2 posted on 09/30/2009 2:40:29 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: machogirl

But it’s OK for Barry to host a Ramadan dinner?


3 posted on 09/30/2009 2:40:45 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

Either burn the tree or let it be Christmas. Fools!

Screw the muslims , athiests and obamas opinions , its getting close to being Christmas in America.


4 posted on 09/30/2009 2:43:42 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: machogirl
Forbidding religious references is in itself a violation of the First Amendment.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

5 posted on 09/30/2009 2:45:19 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: machogirl

Any vibrators and dildos as decorations like the Clinton White House Christmas tree?


6 posted on 09/30/2009 2:45:40 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: machogirl

This makes no sense at all. Christmas IS a religious holiday. What do they think would represent Christmas? Santa Claus? Like Easter is about the Easter Bunny???? The Easter Bunny rose after three days? And saw its shadow? See? This kind of thing drives me a bit crazy.


7 posted on 09/30/2009 2:46:24 PM PDT by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: himno hero

I’ll bet, being Arizonan, that there might be many Native American ornaments (that would be okay with me), and Barry wouldn’t have a problem with that.

I assume it’s to be Arizona and Christmas themed. A cowboy boot with a spur? Would Barry object to that?

Honestly, the Constitution is being twisted like a wet rag is twisted to get rid of the water.


8 posted on 09/30/2009 2:48:32 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: himno hero

The radio report said that ADF were fighting this on behalf of a child who wanted to make an ornament that said, “Happy Birthday Jesus”.


9 posted on 09/30/2009 2:50:21 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

So how’s that HOPE and CHANGE workin’ out?


10 posted on 09/30/2009 2:50:50 PM PDT by Debacled
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To: himno hero

I am surprised that Barry and co. haven’t banned the Christmas Tree yet.


11 posted on 09/30/2009 2:51:03 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl
Time for mass civil disobedience. Defiance of any court order by all of us who believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and what they were intended to stand for.

F the courts and the Democrats and the ACLU and all atheists who interfere with the "free exercise thereof."
12 posted on 09/30/2009 2:51:16 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: Debacled

no HOPE, and CHANGE (coins) is all I have left.


13 posted on 09/30/2009 2:52:06 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Myrddin

I think that’s what the letter says. I tried to post the letter (pdf file) and of course, computer challenged that I am, and I made a mess of it, so I just posted the link to the letter.


14 posted on 09/30/2009 2:53:35 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Phantom Lord

Don’t want to think of that image, don’t forget the cigars and little blue dresses.


15 posted on 09/30/2009 2:54:21 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Cheetahcat

Barry still hasn’t found a church yet. Wonder where he will go for Christmas service?


17 posted on 09/30/2009 2:55:31 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

“cannot reflect a religious or political theme.”

Wonder how many “Obama themed” ornaments they will allow? If Obama is put as the Messiah, the ornament should pass scrutiny. hehe


18 posted on 09/30/2009 2:57:43 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: F15Eagle

Nope. It would be dark humor to see a tree with nothing but Obama stuff. Shep Fairey’s “Iconic poster”, Obama’s logo, pictures of “the One”.


19 posted on 09/30/2009 3:03:56 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl
“Barry still hasn’t found a church yet. Wonder where he will go for Christmas service?”

All these Dr's and Reverends he has running around screaming hate and race I am sure at least one could stop by to give the weekly dose of Bad Whitey to the Creep.

20 posted on 09/30/2009 3:04:50 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: machogirl

celebrating a religious holiday but ornaments cannot be religious...what a whack job


21 posted on 09/30/2009 3:08:28 PM PDT by RummyChick
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Only a government lawyer could come up with this... It’s inappropriate to have religious references on ornaments that celebrate a religious holiday!

I’m amazed that these peoples’ heads don’t explode.

Mark


22 posted on 09/30/2009 3:22:05 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: machogirl
Make all the damn government people work on Christmas. There should be a move to make them do it and then see who screams the loudest.
23 posted on 09/30/2009 3:22:24 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Didn’t Barry say that he and Michelle didn’t give their kids Christmas presents?


24 posted on 09/30/2009 3:23:59 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: RummyChick

only in the Obama Age.


25 posted on 09/30/2009 3:24:27 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl
Nope. It would be dark humor to see a tree with nothing but Obama stuff. Shep Fairey’s “Iconic poster”, Obama’s logo, pictures of “the One”.

SouthPark already did it (sort of). The prophets Parker and Stone have accurately predicted things going on today in their TV shows.

Mark

26 posted on 09/30/2009 3:25:20 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: machogirl
Fine make em go to school on Christmas too and see how that goes over. If the government wants a religious war then give them one make them work on all religious holidays. Christmas, Thanks giving. Chisel every mention of God off any monument in Washington. Make it truly the godless city it is. Make congress and the senate work too no Christmas holidays for them either.
27 posted on 09/30/2009 3:28:10 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: MarkL

I’ll have to look at that. Has South Park taken on the Islamofacists yet?


28 posted on 09/30/2009 3:28:46 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: guitarplayer1953

It’s almost pathetically humorous, except it has consequences.
(the lib push to eliminate references to GOD.)

coming soon, “The Christmas Tree Czar”


29 posted on 09/30/2009 3:33:12 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

How can you ban religious ornaments from something called a christmas tree? It’s not called a whatevermas tree...


30 posted on 09/30/2009 3:33:53 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Fiscal conservatism without social conservatism is dead.)
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To: machogirl
then then the CHRIST out of it and call it a MAS TREE!!!
31 posted on 09/30/2009 3:34:31 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: ari-freedom

I’m sure as we speak, some Govt. employee is writing a report and guidelines as to what can be done with Christmas.

So I assume, there won’t be any Menorah in the Capital? No Kawanza stuff?


32 posted on 09/30/2009 3:36:13 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Chode

I suppose that might work for the Obama crowd.


33 posted on 09/30/2009 3:37:31 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl
Shep Fairey?

34 posted on 09/30/2009 3:40:00 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Fiscal conservatism without social conservatism is dead.)
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To: himno hero

I’m going to order some crosses on stickers about 2 inches square and I will put everywhere!


35 posted on 09/30/2009 3:40:43 PM PDT by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: machogirl
Wonder where he will go for Christmas service?

Mirror World.

36 posted on 09/30/2009 3:44:39 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: machogirl
"I am surprised that Barry and co. haven’t banned the Christmas Tree yet."

You mean the Holiday Tree?

37 posted on 09/30/2009 3:47:03 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

oops sorry. i forgot the pc lingo. i should have remembered. our school district has ‘winter break’, the choral pagent is ‘winter holiday’. speaking of that, 3 years ago when my youngest was in 6th grade, they had songs to celebrate, Kwanzaa, Hanukkah, but no Christmas song to celebrate the Birth of Christ.


38 posted on 09/30/2009 3:52:29 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Raycpa

that’s a good one!


39 posted on 09/30/2009 3:53:06 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: ari-freedom

not that one, the “other one”. ;)

Esquire has this one as one of the Top 75 people in the world that they love.


40 posted on 09/30/2009 3:54:21 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

Once upon a time, I was invited to the White House for a private dinner with the President. I am a respected businessman, with a factory that produces memory chips for computers and portable electronics. There was some talk that my industry was being scrutinized by the administration, but I paid it no mind. I live in a free country. There’s nothing that the government can do to me if I’ve broken no laws. My wealth was earned honestly, and an invitation to dinner with an American President is an honor I checked my coat, was greeted by the Chief of Staff, and joined the President in a yellow dining room.

We sat across from each other at a table draped in white linen. The Great Seal was embossed on the china. Uniformed staff served our dinner. The meal was served, and I was startled when my waiter suddenly reached out, plucked a dinner roll off my plate, and began nibbling it as he walked back to the kitchen. “Sorry about that,” said the President. “Andrew is very hungry.” “I don’t appreciate...” I began, but as I looked into the calm brown eyes across from me, I felt immediately guilty and petty. It was just a dinner roll. “Of course,” I concluded, and reached for my glass. Before I could, however, another waiter reached forward, took the glass away and swallowed the wine in a single gulp. “And his brother Eric is very thirsty.” said the President.

The President is testing my compassion, I thought. I will play along. I don’t want to seem unkind. My plate was whisked away before I had tasted a bite. “Eric’s children are also quite hungry.” With a lurch, I crashed to the floor. My chair had been pulled out from under me. I stood, brushing myself off angrily, and watched as it was carried from the room. “And their grandmother can’t stand for long.” I excused myself, smiling outwardly, but inside feeling like a fool. Obviously I had been invited to the White House to be sport for some game.

I reached for my coat, to find that it had been taken. I turned back to the President.”Their grandfather doesn’t like the cold.” I wanted to shout- that was my coat! But again, I looked at the placid smiling face of my host and decided I was being a poor sport. I spread my hands helplessly and chuckled. Then I felt my hip pocket and realized my wallet was gone. I excused myself and walked to a phone on an elegant side table. I learned shortly that my credit cards had been maxed out, my bank accounts emptied, my retirement and equity portfolios had vanished, and my wife had been thrown out of our home. Apparently, the waiters and their families were moving in.

The President hadn’t moved or spoken as I learned all this, but finally I lowered the phone into its cradle and turned to face him. “Andrew’s whole family has made bad financial decisions. They haven’t planned for retirement, and they need a house. They recently defaulted on a subprime mortgage. I told them they could have your home. They need it more than you do.” My hands were shaking. I felt faint. I stumbled back to the table and knelt on the floor.

The President cheerfully cut his meat, ate his steak and drank his wine. I lowered my eyes and stared at the small grey circles on the tablecloth that were water drops.”By the way,” He added, “I have just signed an Executive Order nationalizing your factories. I’m firing you as head of your business. I’ll be operating the firm now for the benefit of all mankind. There’s a whole bunch of Erics and Andrews out there and they can’t come to you for jobs groveling like beggars.” I looked up. The President dropped his spoon into the empty ramekin which had been his creme brulee. He drained the last drops of his wine. As the table was cleared, he lit a cigarette and leaned back in his chair. He stared at me. I clung to the edge of the table as if were a ledge and I were a man hanging over an abyss.

I thought of the years behind me, of the life I had lived. The life I had earned with a lifetime of work, risk and struggle. Why was I punished? How had I allowed it to be taken? What game had I played and lost? I looked across the table and noticed with some surprise that there was no game board between us. What had I done wrong? As if answering the unspoken thought, the President suddenly cocked his head, locked his empty eyes to mine, and bared a million teeth, chuckling wryly as he folded his hands he said:”You should have stopped me at the dinner roll”


41 posted on 09/30/2009 3:55:32 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: machogirl
bingo...

42 posted on 09/30/2009 3:57:58 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: mojitojoe

That is very good. A perfect example.


43 posted on 09/30/2009 3:58:58 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Chode

That would be a hoot on the National Tree.


44 posted on 09/30/2009 4:00:05 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

Maybe one of these kids can submit a “hidden image” of Christmas on their ornament.


45 posted on 09/30/2009 4:01:04 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

mmmm mmmm mmmmm


46 posted on 09/30/2009 4:34:07 PM PDT by Freddd
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To: Freddd

"mmmm mmmm mmmmm..."

47 posted on 09/30/2009 4:36:33 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: machogirl
Go to South Park Studios... Season 1, Episode 9 - "Mr. Hanky, The Christmas Poo."

There have been a number of episodes regarding islamo-fascists, but the one that comes to mind first is "Osama bin Laden has Farty Pants," Season 5, Episode 9.

Mark

48 posted on 09/30/2009 4:43:12 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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49 posted on 09/30/2009 4:43:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Chode
then then the CHRIST out of it and call it a MAS TREE!!!

Or simply cut to the chase and rename the holiday obamamas.

I seriously hope that some brave kid out there stands up in class and starts singing "Silent Night" or some religious Christmas song at the top of his lungs. I know that SCOTUS has already ruled that 1st amendment rights do not apply in public schools. But it would be very interesting to see what a super of a large school system would do about an act like this.

My guess is that they would do something very offensive to most Americans to appease a small minority of people who just happen to live here. "Make them live up to their own rules" is the most interesting of the "Rules for Radicals" IMO.

50 posted on 09/30/2009 5:08:37 PM PDT by lovesdogs (9/30/09 - 1096 days left until obama is toast/396 until midterms.)
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