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To: bella1

You think that is bad. Gees. I’m dealing with my nephew who now says that education and health care are essential to the advancement of human society. Therefore, since these two things are essential they cannot come with a price tag or be a victim of underfunding, social class or profit gains. He says that it has to be profit neutral that functions without the pursuit of business.
See what our educational system is churning out? He actually believes this utopian crap. Are we are surprised when someone like Micheal Moore pops up?


30 posted on 10/01/2009 7:46:06 AM PDT by murrie (For God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son..........)
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To: murrie

Do they have a good answer for the fact that human society has advanced pretty darn far without socialized medicine in this country?


32 posted on 10/01/2009 7:47:01 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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To: murrie

Moore says capitalism didn’t do a thing for him and Disney tried to block him, etc. Again the people on the left simply can NOT make CONCEPTS. They jump from thought to thought without connections. He completely dismisses the reality that Disney didn’t just appear out of nowhere. It was a man with an idea and a talent who had to work himself. Disney as we know it evolved from one person who also had to go it alone at least as much as Moore did. He also ignores the entire structure which makes his success possible...that is to say people who have comfortable enough lives to spend money on things like movies and books rather than spending every second of their lives trying to just figure out how to eat. He really doesn’t see it...does not see that capitalism is exactly what made his success possible. He takes for granted the structure which supports all else and, like all narcissists, sees the world starting on the day that HE was born. Young people can be straightened out on these things. The positive self-esteem movement, as well-intended as it was, has created a narcissistic culture.


47 posted on 10/01/2009 8:07:20 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (The trouble with trouble is it starts out as Utopia)
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To: murrie
I’m dealing with my nephew who now says that education and health care are essential to the advancement of human society. Therefore, since these two things are essential they cannot come with a price tag or be a victim of underfunding, social class or profit gains. He says that it has to be profit neutral that functions without the pursuit of business.

Okay, isn't food essential to the advancement of human society? Without it, we would die. So how about all food be non-profit. What kind of food do we deserve? Maybe organically grown? Same thing with transportation. How can you get to work without proper transportation? So, we should all have our transportation be non-profit based. What kind of car should we all have? How about housing? We all need shelter. Should we all live in apartments?

What's your nephew plan on doing for a living when he grows up? Should he work for no profit? What if his coworker doesn't work as hard as he does.....isn't as dedicated? Does his coworker deserve the same level of food, transportation, education, housing, health care etc. as he does? Why bother working if we are guaranteed certain basics in life without getting something (profit) for our efforts?

You are correct. He needs to read Atlas Shrugged.
53 posted on 10/01/2009 8:18:21 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: murrie

I agree with him both are essential, but not the conclusion that means government takes charge of it and profit is bad.


57 posted on 10/01/2009 8:32:50 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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