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Dems taunt GOP: Where's your health plan?
MSNBC/AP ^ | October 2, 2009

Posted on 10/02/2009 1:02:35 PM PDT by presidio9

Even as Republicans pummel President Barack Obama's health care proposals, some GOP leaders worry their party is being hurt by a Democratic counterattack: Where is your plan?

Republican leaders chose not to draft their own comprehensive bill, focusing instead on attacking Democrats' plans as too costly and bureaucratic. Some prominent Republicans now fear they are getting tagged as the "party of no," and they want the GOP to offer more solutions to the nation's health care problems.

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, a potential GOP presidential contender in 2012, said it's time for Republicans "to pivot and say, in addition to emphasizing what we oppose, here are our proposals" for health care. The two parties can agree on some important improvements, he said in an interview Thursday, but Democrats must trim their proposed costs.

Democrats, meanwhile, see a rare chance to go on the offensive in the debate, which has sometimes seemed dominated by fiery attacks on Obama's proposals.

"The Grand Old Party's coffers are empty when it comes to health care reform," Sen. Richard Durbin of Illinois, the Democrats' second-ranking Senate leader, said Thursday.

A new CBS-New York Times poll found that only 14 percent of Americans think Republicans have clearly explained their plans to change the health care system, while 76 percent do not. Obama's numbers were better, though not stellar: 37 percent yes, 55 percent no.

Aware of the criticisms, House Republican leaders have compiled lists of bills and principles that various colleagues have offered this year. But even the whole list combined doesn't match the breadth and detail of the massive Democratic-crafted health care bills that have

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; coburn; gop; gophealthcare
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To: presidio9

Republicans will never ever learn. Here’s Jindal trying to sound all compassionate in an interview. And natch, the lib media spins it to attack the entire party as void of idea.

Jindal needs to shut up.


21 posted on 10/02/2009 1:11:44 PM PDT by nhwingut (The media's love affair with Obama reminds me of a dog humping a telephone pole.)
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To: presidio9

To quote Calvin Coolidge, it is often better to stop bad legislation than to pass new legislation.


22 posted on 10/02/2009 1:11:57 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: presidio9

GOP to Dems: “We are still waiting for YOUR plan. So far, all we’ve seen is the outline for a Communist take-over of the United States!!”

(Actually, they should not even be waiting for the Dems plan - they should just stop all this foolishness in it’s tracks. The GOP “plan” should be to delay and obstruct whatever the dems are trying to do, until the entire thing dies a natural death - or until Palin is sworn in.)


23 posted on 10/02/2009 1:12:01 PM PDT by Zetman
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To: G Larry

This is why the AP must be replaced.
House Bill 3400
They know it.


24 posted on 10/02/2009 1:12:37 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: presidio9

I love this part:

“Democrats scoff at the Republican proposals, calling them skimpy outlines that would do little if anything to make health care more affordable and efficient.”

Yeah, that would be horrible. Thankfully the Democrats are here to give us more expensive and less efficient Health care.


25 posted on 10/02/2009 1:13:35 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: presidio9
How ‘bout “Determine the perverse incentives created by government intervention in the health care market and repeal or amend the legislation that causes them.”

The truth is, this is a “straw man.” The Federal Government has no business intervening in the health care market, therefore no bill is needed. If there is a bill to be passed, it should be as described above.

26 posted on 10/02/2009 1:14:32 PM PDT by Little Ray (Obama is a kamikaze president aimed at the heart of this Republic.)
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To: G Larry

“It’s House bill 3400, for anybody willing to pay attention or listen.”

Or open their eyes when the GOP side of the house held HB-3400 up over their heads during Obama address to the House.


27 posted on 10/02/2009 1:16:28 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: presidio9
1. Throw out the illegal immigrants.

2. Build the Effing Wall.

3. Cut off ALL welfare payments to unwed mothers.

4. Make "ambulance chasing" a capital crime.

5. Nationalize, then disband, GE.

6. Medical Savings Accounts.

7. Allow insurance companies, and hospitals, to charge through the nose for intoxicated drivers, smokers, and Type 2 (adult onset) diabetics without independent evidence that the diabetes was the side effect of another drug.

8. Force the US Congress to choose from private coverage given to 1st-level management employees of any Fortune 500 company headquartered in their state. If no companies are in their state, they must go to the VA as a penalty for driving businesses out of their state.

9. Immediate ban on high-fructose corn syrup as a food additive, together with elimination of all tariffs on imported sugar.

10. Immediate ban on importation of any food or food additive from either China or any cut-outs acting as middlemen for China.

Cheers!

28 posted on 10/02/2009 1:18:03 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: presidio9
Republican leaders chose not to draft their own comprehensive bill, focusing instead on attacking Democrats' plans as too costly and bureaucratic

That is a lie. The Republicans have introduced plans, and they weren't 1300 pages of crap either.

They have told the media of their plans, and held them up at the joint session of Congress.

The media often biases the news, and ignores stuff, but it is rare to see them lie so blatantly.

29 posted on 10/02/2009 1:18:55 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: presidio9

Fedzilla, stay the h*ll out of it...there...that’s the plan. Best plan I’ve seen yet.


30 posted on 10/02/2009 1:23:56 PM PDT by SoDak (bitter clinger)
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To: presidio9

Isn’t Durbin racing Arabic horses now...


31 posted on 10/02/2009 1:27:50 PM PDT by wac3rd (Felipe Calderon supports the public option.)
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To: Russ

Respectfully, I disagree. The GOP should articulate a set of principles and a legislative agenda, to include tort reform, tax reform, expansion of HSAs, competitiveness and innovation in the health insurance industry, and returning decision-making and responsibility to the patient and doctor.

The thorny issue will remain, however, what to do about those people who need health care but can’t afford it.


32 posted on 10/02/2009 1:36:03 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: presidio9
What's up with Jindal???

What's he going RINO on us, not that I'm a big Jindal fan, but sheesh, don't we have enough "can't we just all gitt along" Republi-Tards and Demo-Rat-Lites already

The R's need to hold a news conference (of course none of the State-Run media will show up) and as someone suggested, book all the Sunday shows to counter the Dummy-Crats attacks and explain that in order to fix health care, you don't need a 1,000+ page bill and there are only a few simple things that need to be done such as Tort Reform, removing the state prohibitions against buying any policy from any company, address pre-existing condition and provide vouchers for the poor.

All fixed!!!

33 posted on 10/02/2009 1:36:40 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: presidio9
I'm pretty sure you can find the Republican plan in Pelosi's round file, along with her original lips.
34 posted on 10/02/2009 1:36:55 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: G Larry

Facts are stubborn things... MSNBC may want to check into them.


35 posted on 10/02/2009 1:40:24 PM PDT by Made In The USA (Communists need not apply.)
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To: presidio9; McGruff

Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C. applauds at right as fellow House Republicans hold up their health care proposals, Wednesday, Sept. 9, 2009, on Capitol Hill in Washington, during President Barack Obama's speech on healthcare before a joint session of Congress. Rep. Adrian Smith, R-Neb. is second from right.

FR credit to McGruff for picture.

36 posted on 10/02/2009 1:41:12 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Cicero
Tort reform should be number one. It would not only slice back the insurance costs for doctors and practices, but it would cut the Democrats’ largest source of campaign contributions—donations from crooked tort lawyers.

Yes, that's the way to go, if we really want to do this right.

Caps on damages, ceilings on attorneys' fees, and enforced remittitur.

The days of spilling hot coffee on one's lap and collecting six figures needs to end. Damages awards against hospitals and doctors that make one an instant millionaire need to be curtailed, thus lowering insurance premiums across the board. The steps that follow doing that will be remarkably easier to implement.
37 posted on 10/02/2009 1:44:23 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: presidio9

The Dems don’t even read their plans...why would they be interested in reading the Republicans?


38 posted on 10/02/2009 1:45:58 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: presidio9

Well, first we need to let more young people actually make it through birth, grow up and learn to provide for themselves. Next, we stop letting you liberal try to buy votes with outrageous lies about free health care.


39 posted on 10/02/2009 1:49:29 PM PDT by Theophilus (Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?)
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To: presidio9

35 proposals here

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2009/09/obamas-empty-promise-gop-indroduced-35.html


40 posted on 10/02/2009 1:53:13 PM PDT by Naplm
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