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Attack on remote Afghan outposts kills 8 US troops (Obama's indecision killing US Troops)
yahoo ^ | 10/4/2009 | ap

Posted on 10/04/2009 5:46:03 AM PDT by tobyhill

Militant fighters streaming from an Afghan village and a mosque attacked a pair of remote outposts near the Pakistani border, killing eight U.S. soldiers and as many as seven Afghan forces in one of the fiercest battles of the eight-year war.

The Taliban claimed responsibility for the deadliest attack for coalition forces since a similar raid in July 2008 killed nine American soldiers in the same mountainous region known as an al-Qaida haven. The U.S. has already said it plans to pull its soldiers from the isolated area to focus on Afghan population centers.

Fighting began around dawn Saturday and lasted several hours, punctuated by American airstrikes. Jamaludin Badar, governor of Nuristan province, said the two outposts were on a hill — one near the top and one at the foot of the slope — flanked by the village on one side and the mosque on the other.

Nearly 300 militant fighters flooded the lower, Afghan outpost then swept around it to reach the American station on higher ground from both directions, said Mohammad Qasim Jangulbagh, the provincial police chief. The U.S. military statement said the Americans and Afghans repelled the attack by tribal fighters and "inflicted heavy enemy casualties."

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1 posted on 10/04/2009 5:46:04 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
Obama lied, soldiers died. Thank God Republicans/Christians do not use the lives of our brave soldiers for political purpose.
2 posted on 10/04/2009 5:48:34 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge ( Yes I Love Sarah Palin!! I wish she were mine.)
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To: Friendofgeorge

Prayers for the soldiers and their families!
Praying we make it through the next 3 years.
With the damage done in the first one so far, I worry about the world we will leave our grandchildren.


3 posted on 10/04/2009 5:54:56 AM PDT by stickandrudder (Another Bitter-Clinger ------ Molon Labe ----- Let's Roll!)
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To: tobyhill

Didn’t the idiots in charge change the Rules of Engagement to something like this:

“Halt, I am a NATO troop and must warn you that deadly force will be used if you do not put down your weapon. You will only be given 3 chances to comply and then I will forced to read you Miranda rights and make a lawful shooting...”


4 posted on 10/04/2009 5:56:02 AM PDT by MrDem (And this is a loyal lifelong Democrat saying this... Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: tobyhill
Like sitting ducks.

God bless our troops. Pray for them. Only God can help them - they have no Commander In Chief.

5 posted on 10/04/2009 5:56:52 AM PDT by LADY J (Change your thoughts and you change your world. - Norman Vincent Peale)
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To: tobyhill
She said American officials were working with the Afghan army to relay messages to Afghan forces in the area.

Let's get one thing straight---there are no Afghan "forces," no Afghan National "Army," just a large collection of heterogeneous tribes that hate each other and anyone they consider to be foreigners.

Either nuke the place or get our people out since Obama's disastrous ROEs as well as his obvious vacillation and weakness are getting U.S. servicemen killed.

Moreover, while they were fighting and dying, Obama was out partying with Michelle last night. That ought to tell everyone where his priorities lie.

6 posted on 10/04/2009 5:57:59 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Friendofgeorge

Ditto !!


7 posted on 10/04/2009 6:01:47 AM PDT by unojook
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To: tobyhill
Ever since Obama changed the ROE the number of our troops killed has increased greatly.Even the father of the soldier who was awared the CMH said so in a recent interview.

Some of the insurgents came out of a mosque to attack our troops.

8 posted on 10/04/2009 6:04:00 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Obama was too busy trying to suck up to the world for a Chicago Olympic and the world basically told him to F-off. Now the Taliban has just told Obama that he's an idiot and can't stop them.
The Casualties in Afghanistan almost doubled from any previous month of the war in July, Aug and Sept, right after Obama changed the ROE.

http://icasualties.org/oef/ByMonth.aspx

9 posted on 10/04/2009 6:22:16 AM PDT by tobyhill (The Communist has arrived)
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The terrorists SMELL weakness in president HOLLYWOOD and they are taking full advantage of it....DAMN JOKER!! I loathe the mediaPUKES for sheltering this moron and NOT speaking the truth on the TOKER!! I wish the General would be more vocal for the sake of our brave men and women on the battle field. SOMEONE in the military has to be bold enough to take on president HOLLYWOOD!! Screw protocol...SOLDIERS ARE DYING! GOD HELP US!


10 posted on 10/04/2009 6:42:28 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: tobyhill

Yeah, I know. I’ve got a very good friend in the Virginia National Guard who’s currently assigned to one of those isolated outposts in Nuristan on the Paki border. I’m trying to find out if he’s O.K., but am having no luck. His family has heard nothing either, and DoD appears to be very confused about what is going on this morning.


11 posted on 10/04/2009 6:54:30 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I’ll keep your friend and his family in my prayers this morning.


12 posted on 10/04/2009 6:57:25 AM PDT by Jackson57
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To: Friendofgeorge
Thank God Republicans/Christians do not use the lives of our brave soldiers for political purpose

How ridiculous.

The decisions leading to the inevitable disaster in Afghanistan were made by George W. Bush in November 2001. His persistent universalist and limited-war delusions (probably based on his inadequate grasp of Christianity) have brought us to the place we are at in Afghanistan.

Of course, the foolish choice by the American people of the man calling himself "Barack Obama" has made the situation worse. But even that foolish choice was engendered by Bush's incompetence in turning a war that should have been over in six months into an open-ended mission to turn illiterate savages into a modern nation.

13 posted on 10/04/2009 7:20:15 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Either nuke the place or get our people out since Obama's disastrous ROEs as well as his obvious vacillation and weakness are getting U.S. servicemen killed.

Be fair to little Barry. The place should have been nuked before Christmas 2001, and you and I both know it.

The "mission" defined by George W. Bush is incapable of accomplishment. OF COURSE having an affirmative-action zero in charge has made things worse.

But only Paul W. Tibbits could have made it better, and he died in 2007.

14 posted on 10/04/2009 7:24:15 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Let's get one thing straight---there are no Afghan "forces," no Afghan National "Army,"

Right on, my brother - and the concept of an "Iraqi nation", or for that matter "Pakistan" are not far behind on the George W. Bush delusion meter.

It is impossible to win a war, or even to make a coherent plan, without the ability to see things as they are.

The inability of George W. Bush and his inner circle to see the nature of the enemy, and to marshall a force to defeat him when the people were prepared for war, has led us into the situation where we find ourselves today.

15 posted on 10/04/2009 7:32:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: Jim Noble

Thanks Jim, well said. And to all the poeple here who agree that this war is insane, thank you too. The world is laughing at the US, while good men die. And the sad thing is that we cannot do anything about it because the democrats are hiding behind black, just like the Taliban are hiding behind children.


16 posted on 10/04/2009 8:22:30 AM PDT by hot4plasma
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To: hot4plasma
According to Fox News this morning...
YTD 2009 USA KIA = 229
Total KIA for 2008=195

Obama is dilly dallying while Americans are being killed.

Obama should be removed from office for failing to uphold the Constitution and dereliction of duty as CIC.

17 posted on 10/04/2009 9:07:29 AM PDT by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President! (FUBO!))
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To: GRRRRR

The AP story “forgets” to mention the KIA totals...how convenient...


18 posted on 10/04/2009 9:09:00 AM PDT by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President! (FUBO!))
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To: tobyhill

wipe that afghan village and mosque off the face of the earth


19 posted on 10/04/2009 9:55:12 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: tobyhill

you lose more lives playing defense, than going on the offence. To win you don’t pacify the enemy, you destroy the enemy. THAT is a well proven fact - and historical.


20 posted on 10/04/2009 12:48:06 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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