Skip to comments.Urgent lawsuit filed against FDA to halt swine flu vaccines; claims FDA violated federal law
Posted on 10/09/2009 4:59:37 AM PDT by Brown Deer
(NaturalNews) Health freedom attorney Jim Turner is filing a lawsuit in Washington D.C. mid-day Friday in an urgent effort to halt the distribution of the swine flu vaccine in America. On behalf of plaintiffs Dr. Gary Null and other licensed health care workers of New York State, the lawsuit charges that the FDA violated the law in its hasty approval of four swine flu vaccines by failing to scientifically determine neither the safety nor efficacy of the vaccines.
"The suit will seek an injunction against the FDA from approving the vaccine," attorney Jim Turner told NaturalNews on Thursday evening's Natural News Talk Hour show. "And the core of the argument is that they have not done the proper safety and efficacy tests on the vaccine to allow it to be release at this time."
The suit seeks to not only nullify the FDA's unlawful "approval" of the four H1N1 influenza vaccines, but to also ask the court to issue an injunction that would halt any mandatory vaccination requirements.
"The FDA is required by law to establish that a vaccine is safe and effective before it can be given to the public," said Turner. "We are arguing that they did not establish that the vaccine was effective, and did not establish that it was safe. They are trying to get it on the market by a waiver."
and they developed and got this vaccine on the market in just a few months time? ;-)
Snowball chance in hell of winning, but the right thing to do to make the effort. These guys are trying to save a lot of lives, and maybe the news reports alone will open some people’s eyes to the true story. Glenn Beck tried yesterday.
Heard this evening that the two Obama daughters WILL NOT be vaccinated for H1N1.
Now I wonder what the First Family knows that the rest of us aren’t supposed to know?
Even with insurance, the cost was over $100 for 5 doses.
Whether this vaccine is good or bad, profits are definitely at the forefront.
Will someone follow the money? What drug companies are involved? How much money did they get? And what political party do they contribute to?
It should not be given to kids unless really necessary.
“And the core of the argument is that they have not done the proper safety and efficacy tests on the vaccine to allow it to be release at this time.”
Considering how many TRULY important drugs are DENIED or DELAYED because of the FDA’s multi-stage approval process, it's rather remarkable how they just cut through their own red tape to fast track a vaccine to the public, combining Squalene (Shark Liver Oil) and Thiomersal (Mercury - C9H9HgNaO2S) without thoroughly testing it.
If only the FDA would get out of the way for other promising treatments.
they live in a “bubble” and don’t have access to the “little people”
The FDA has already violated their own rules regarding proper testing procedures at least once, after the EPA mandated the replacement of CFC propellants (used in asthma and respiratory inhalers). These propellants had an ~ 50 year safety record, and the replacements were never fully tested. They have proved to be a decidedly inferior replacement.
This was a purely political decision to ‘save the ozone layer’. I’m certain the H1N1 vaccine falls in the same category - driven by politics not science or medicine.
He’as 15 and was getting better at the time of the doctor visit. His parents didn’t purchase the drugs.
1. Breaking the law? They don't care.
2. Some will suffer life threatening side effects? They don't care.
You are being much too rational. The motivation for desiring to inoculate everyone in the country is mostly left wing emotionalism. Sorta like global warming. Create an imaginary crisis, then save everyone from it.
They'll need to strap me to a gurney and force into my arm. IOW, we won't be getting it.
Gee, even the Bangkok Post is concerned about Obama’s flu shot. I like how he says he’ll do what his doctor says - what, not what Governor Patrick says or Sebelius?
Obamas to get swine flu vaccine
Published: 20/09/2009 at 10:21 PM
Online news: Breakingnews
America’s first family will get vaccinated against swine flu when they are advised to, President Barack Obama said in a television interview broadcast Sunday.
“We want to get vaccinated. We think it’s the right thing to do. We will stand in line like everybody else and when folks say it’s our turn, that’s when we’ll get it,’’ Obama told CNN’s “State of the Union.’’
With the northern hemisphere entering its autumn flu season and infection rates again beginning to spike, many Americans are waiting for the first deliveries of (A)H1N1 vaccines, expected to come in the first weeks of October.
The emergency services personnel and others who are at risk or vulnerable, including pregnant women and children with underlying conditions, will be first to get the vaccine.
“After that, I think, you’re looking at kids, so Malia and Sasha would fall into that category,’’ Obama said referring to his two young daughters. “I suspect that I may come fairly far down the line.’’
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said last week that the flu season had begun earlier than normal and that the number of detected cases had risen.
“The Obama family plan is to call up my HHS (Health and Human Services) Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, and my CDC director, and just ask them, what’s your recommendation? And whatever they tell me to do, I will do,’’ Obama said.
Worldwide, at least 3,205 people have died of the virus since it was uncovered in Mexico in April, according to the World Health Organization. The United States has confirmed more than 600 swine flu-related deaths.
The US government has purchased 195 million doses of swine flu vaccine and will make shots against the influenza A(H1N1) virus available free of charge starting next month.
I am recovering from both flu (may be H1N1 but was not tested) and pneumonia. As flus go ... hurts more in the joints but does not last the 2 weeks that I have experienced with other flus.
Flu came to my home yesterday. Doc appointment this afternoon.
Oddly this is the first time I’ve scheduled a doctor appointment for the flu.
I would say the first 72 hrs are the worst. If you can avoid getting really really sick during that time, it should pass quickly.
Unfortunately, I am an asthmatic and have a long history with pneumonia (now 9 times) and the flu just weaken me enough for the pneumonia to return.
Have no fear, it will be tested on those who are dumb enough to get the shot.
I think the 7 year old will be just fine, but the 19 year old is asthmatic and not a strong immune system.
I’m going to look into oregano oil to move this out faster.
A little off topic, but who pays for these shots. I’ve heard comments on the radio that people can get them for free. I’ve also heard that certain local drug stores are charging a nominal fee, about 20-30 dollars, for them. Does anyone know the full story on this?
I'm really conflicted about getting the swine flu vaccine. I'm almost 8 mos pregnant (one of "high risk" groups). Apparently this flu is hard on pregnant women w/us being 6x more likely to die from it because it's such a respiratory illness. I am normally against getting a flu vaccine and really don't want to get this one, but don't know which is worse: putting this vaccine in my (and my baby's) body, or subjecting both of us (not to mention my hubby and 2 y.o.) to the flu if I do get sick. Of course, my OB is telling me to get the vaccine....
They used the normal manufacturing standards and rules that they use for developing and bringing to production any influenza vaccine. The system has been in place for decades. It is tried and trued.
This is just plain silliness. H1N1 is a variant, and the vaccine production process does not need reinventing or retesting.
Time is of the essence. Get your shot. The swine flu sucks.
I wonder if ole Merck is involved?
You know the D Company that gave us VIOXX and Coronary Artery Disease.
I currently have the swine flu. I’m on Day 6. It is horrid. Your baby does not need to be subjected to oxygen deprivation and two weeks of your body in wracking coughs (doctor says cough will take another week to diminish). You will also be sleep deprived and possibly unable to eat for at least three days.
Your risk of death is 28%. Doesn’t your baby need you alive?
Please get the shot and don’t think twice. I had flu vaccines with all three of my pregnancies, and all of my kids are strong and healthy. Many Freepers can verify that.
I have to wonder if in 20 years we will be as concerned about the over use of the regular seasonal flu shot as we are now about the overuse and abuse of Anti-biotics.
The Human Immune system is not an infinite bucket that can store and an infinite amount of different immunities.
I would much rather have my immune system be primed for the really nasty stuff, (Polio, Mumps, Measles, Rubella, Hepatitis, HIV, etc...) and to heck with the seasonal flu which is like the common cold, constantly mutating but not that serious if you catch it and you are healthy.
But suggesting that normally healthy people should take the flu shot every year is kinda like prescribing antibiotics for everyone who isn’t sick. What if we are so successful in eliminating the regular flu stains that we inadvertently make room for the really nasty stains.
Or even worse, what if a flu shot affects our immunity to the other nasty stuff that is not flu related. We still don’t know everything about the immune system I would hate to overload it or create so many different immunities that the body decides itself is an invader and we start having more cases of auto immune disorders.
Most of the crap you see here and else-where is simple fear-mongering and paranoia. BTW, the H1N1 vaccines do not contain adjuvants, which are chemicals to stimulate the immune system in general, and are definitely to be avoided. Also, single-dose vaccines without the mercury-based preservative are available, and if you do get the vaccine, you could get a mercury-free one.
Getting any vaccine can be a difficult choice. It depends on the state of your health, immune system, risk of exposure, and other individual circumstances. Your best bet is to have a frank discussion with a doctor you really respect and trust, and I know that even finding such a doctor can be difficult. If you do that, go prepared with specific questions you want answered. Write them down. Also, try and see if you can research the issues a bit yourself, trying to find legitimate web sites (not the tin-foil hat ones), so that you have some basis of judging the veracity of your doctor's advice, and which questions you want answered.
I wish you the best of luck in making this difficult decision.
The vaccine will cause Guillian-Barre syndrome, a condition which destroys the central nervous system.
My wife (mostly because of my worry about everything mother in law) wanted our 7 month old daughter to get the H1N1 vaccine. I said over my dead body, and she knew by my tone and facial expression that I was not kidding. I told her our child is not a guinea pig for the government and will not be getting it. I then let her know that there was nothing either she, her mother, or the pediatrician could say that would change my mind.
We will probably learn that “the vaccine” was approved because the FDA knows that sugar water without any sugar IS NOT harmful to people.
Why make the producers spend millions to prove what is already known? Just sell “the vaccine” and claim your profits big Pharma and oh yeah, support health care.
My son became ill and the Doctor encouraged Tamiflu. It caused my son to become numb in his legs. We stopped giving him the medicine and changed Doctors (quack)
Don’t worry. You post has now been turned over to the ORDT-DFCS (Obama Rapid Deployment Team of Department of Family and Children Services).
Remain calm, the knock at your door is only “the One’s” aides coming to “help” you understand your new and improved role as the child’s custodian.
Please stand back as they administer the appropriate dosage.
They are only at your residence due to lack of understanding and compassion on your part.
We trust there will be any further incidents on your part!
(please read with the sarcasm that was meant)
My doc is refusing to give it to patients. Said there hasn’t been enough testing and it was a complete rush job. Makes me trust him even more after hearing that.
[[Vaccine / adjuvant combination has never been properly tested]]
This statement is complete BS- the regular flu vaccine goes through NO testing- the swine flue vacinne has gone through 4 months of testing, 100’s of thousands of vacinations have been given with no ill effects, and this vacine is the EXACT same vacine as the regular flu vaccine- the only difference is that some brands have thermosol (sp?) which is murcury- simpyl demand that you get the ones without thermosol- This vaccine is nothign more than the regular flu vaccine with the active component of regular flu removed, and the swine flu component plugged in- they do this with EVERY flu season- remove the old component, and plug the new one in (I’m not explaining htis right- but basically, this is hte jist)
1 person in a couple of million MIGHT get guillian Barre syndrom fro mthe vacine, HOWEVER, 1 person in 100,000 people WILL die from this swine flu- Since April until last month, only 600 people have died from the flu- BUT in the recent month, 13000 people have died- this is a dramatic increase i nthe number of deaths.
[[Do they normally publish clinical trial results for the seasonal flu vaccine?? My doc says this vaccine is “using the same technology” as the seasonal flu vaccine and that it would have been included in the seasonal vaccine if it had been detected earlier. ]]
“Is the swine flu vaccine safe?
Yes. Its nonvirus components are the same as those used in the seasonal flu vaccine, which has been tested extensively and monitored for serious reactions for several years. The only difference is that in the swine flu vaccine, novel H1N1 virus replaces the influenza A viruses used in the regular vaccine.”
“Will there be a version of the vaccine that doesn’t contain the preservative thimerosal?
Yes. The nasal spray is preservative-free, as is injectable vaccine in filled, single-dose syringes. Multiple-dose vials do contain thimerosal.”
What causes GBS?
Scientists do not fully understand what causes GBS, but it is believed that stimulation of the bodys immune system may play a role in its development. Heres what scientists know for sure: About two-thirds of people who develop GBS symptoms do so several days or weeks after they have been sick with a diarrheal or respiratory illness. Infection with the bacterium Campylobacter jejuni is one of the most common risk factors for GBS. People can also develop GBS after having the flu or other infections (such as cytomegalovirus and Epstein Barr virus). On very rare occasions, they may develop GBS in the days or weeks following receiving a vaccination.
Who is at risk for developing GBS?
Anyone can develop GBS, but it is more common among adults than children. The incidence of GBS increases with age, and people over age 50 are at greatest risk for developing GBS. Each year, on average, about 3,000 to 6,000 people in the United States develop GBS whether or not they received a vaccination thats 1 to 2 people out of every 100,000 people.
Do vaccines cause GBS?
It is not fully understood why some people develop GBS, but it is believed that the nerve cells are damaged by a persons own immune system. Many types of infections, and in very rare cases vaccines, may activate the immune system to cause damage to the nerve cells.
How common is GBS, and how common is it after people are vaccinated for seasonal influenza?
GBS is rare. Each year, about 3,000 to 6,000 people in the United States develop GBS whether or not they received a vaccination thats 1 to 2 people out of every 100,000 people. This is referred to as the background rate.
In 1976, there was a small risk of GBS following influenza (swine flu) vaccination (approximately 1 additional case per 100,000 people who received the swine flu vaccine). That number of GBS cases was slightly higher than the background rate for GBS. Since then, numerous studies have been done to evaluate if other flu vaccines were associated with GBS. In most studies, no association was found, but two studies suggested that approximately 1 additional person out of 1 million vaccinated people may be at risk for GBS associated with the seasonal influenza vaccine. It is important to keep in mind that severe illness and possible death can be associated with influenza, and vaccination is the best way to prevent influenza infection and its complications.
What happened in 1976 with GBS and the swine flu vaccine?
Scientists first reported a suspected link between GBS and vaccinations in 1976, during a national campaign to vaccinate people against a swine flu virus.
The investigation found that vaccine recipients had a higher risk for GBS than those who were not vaccinated (about 1 additional case occurred per 100,000 people vaccinated). Given this association, and the fact that the swine flu disease was limited, the vaccination program was stopped.
Since then, numerous studies have been done to evaluate if other flu vaccines were associated with GBS. In most studies, no association was found, but two studies suggested that approximately 1 additional person out of 1 million vaccinated people may be at risk for GBS associated with the seasonal influenza vaccine.
Why did some people develop GBS after they received the 1976 swine flu vaccine?
The Institute of Medicine (IOM) conducted a thorough scientific review in 2003 and concluded that people who received the 1976 swine influenza vaccine had a slight increased risk for developing GBS. Scientists have multiple theories on why this increased risk may have occurred, but the exact reason for this association remains unknown.
Do you expect that the 2009 H1N1 vaccine will be associated with GBS?
We expect the 2009 H1N1 vaccine to have a similar safety profile as seasonal flu vaccines, which have very good safety track records. The seasonal influenza vaccine has not been consistently associated with GBS.
[[Most of the crap you see here and else-where is simple fear-mongering and paranoia.]]
Fear-monguering and paranoia based on false information and overblown rumors- While noone wants somethign like Guillian Barre syndrome- it is VERY rare, and NOT gettign hte flu shot puts you at greater risk of contracting it if you get a lung infection from the flu- which this swine flu WILL cause in p[eople (lungs autopsied showed massive lung damage similar to hte bird flu- and htose that survive the swine flu are at a higher than normal risk of getting permanent lung damage that can never be reversed)
[[Getting any vaccine can be a difficult choice. It depends on the state of your health, immune system, risk of exposure, and other individual circumstances.]]
True- it’s a tough choice, but we also have to think about our neighbors as well- while we might be healthy, and might survive the flu just fine, without a shot, our neighbors who have compromised immune systems might not, and again, the risk of getting GB fro mthe shot compared to the risk we put others at by not getting the shot make it pretty clear which is safer and more ethical (unfortunately, this is a case of choosing hte ‘lesser of two evils’ ie: it’s better to concider our neighbors safety, and take a VERY small risk of getting GB [actually, there’s evidence we lessen our risk of getting GB by gettign flu shot], than to avoid the flu shot and put others with weakened immune systems at risk- I can’t tell you how many places I go into where peopel are coughing and sneezing because they can’t afford to take a day off)
GB is NO picnic to be sure, and I sure wouldn’t want anyone to get it, but again- let’s keep things in perspective- it’s VERY rare to get it, and Rarer still to die from it- but it is NOT nearly as rare to die fro m the flu- Even the regular flu
This is a crappy choice to make, I know, and hte best case scenario woudl be to not have to make the descision at all, but since this flu IS now a pandemic, and only goign to get worse (only 5% of world’s population has come down with hte flu so far- meaning htis thing isn’t even in full bloom yet, and already we’ve seen almost 14000 deaths from it) but let’s keep things in perspective, get the FACTS, and make personal descisions based on good sound facts, not itnernet hype and misinformation.
you’ve given good advice- I hope everyoen will carefully concider your posts and do liek oyu say- get educated by reputable sites about hte flu, get the TRUE stats o nthings liek GB cases, flu shot connectiosn to GB, Thermosol in some vaccines, etc, and make descisio nfro mthere- so far, with over several 100 thousand peopel being innoculated so far, and noone sufferign serious side effects sicne April, enoguh time has goen by to know whether the shot increased risk or not- and so far, the stats say NO it hasn’t- and infact may be protecting people from GB- While 1 more person per 100,000 get GB after gettign shot, how many more woudl have developped it IF noone had received the shots? My guess is that more people would have developped GB IF the flus were respiratory in nature
Oh, dear! I hope you feel better soon. I can certainly verify that your children strong and healthy!
Since the elite congress is in charge of the nation they should lead by example and get the dam shot first!
Then I will decide. Not until.
Flu came to my home yesterday. Doc appointment this afternoon.
If you know you have the flu, why would you waste your time going to the doctor? So he can say, yeah, you have the flu. Go home, rest, drink liquids and you’ll be better in a week. That’ll be $200 please?Oh, and don’t forget the other hundred dollars at the drug store for useless cough syrup and toxic tamiflu that will MAYBE cut 1-2 days off the symptoms IF you start it in time! If he’s a really useless doctor, he’ll give you an antibiotic for a virus as well- just in case- so you think your trip was worth the while. Unless you are experiencing symptoms that require immediate medical care (breathing distress/dehydration, etc..) going to a doctor is a waste of time, money and only prolongs and spreads the disease.
Too late, already went to the doctor, as I said before, I don’t know why, I’ve never taken the kids to the doctor for the flu.
I guess so we could tell everyone we have swine flu and watch them gasp and I did want the asthmatic one checked.
We have private insurance so the visit was only $20. He told us not to listen to the media hype and he thought tamiflu wasn’t worth it but he would prescribe it if we wanted him to.
Out of curiosity, have you ever had a flu shot while pregnant, or have you ever gotten the flu while pregnant?
My Doc said the same thing. He did not think Tamiflu makes more than a 24 hour difference.
1 in 1,000,000 got it in 1976... Much higher chance of getting it from the flu itself.
Then your "doc" will have a serious lawsuit on his hands the first time one of his patients denied the vaccine dies from the swine flu... a death that could have been prevented.
I’m conflicted. I contacted a wicked flu last year that almost killed me. Nothing helped me. The antibiotic choices were running dry. I am young and healthy. The flu ran its course prior to “swine flu” being reported as the culprit. However, I was infected in the high risk areas of the US and brought it back to my state.
Do I get my first shot to prevent a worse version of this type of flu? Or am I immune to the virus since I survived last year’s hell?
And if I and over 50,000 others die because of this virus, what will you say then?
Personally, I would not take the H1N1 under any circumstances -- especially if I were pregnant. Has the vaccine been proven to be effective? Has it been proven to be safe? More importantly, has it been tested on pregnant women EVER? Have there been any studies on the short term and long term effects on newborns?
Of course you want to do everything you can to keep you and your baby healthy and safe. But is an untested and unproven vaccine the answer? Or, can you achieve the results you want without the risks? IMHO, I believe this can absolutely be accomplished by utilizing natural, non-toxic substances that have shown to be very effective at preventing the flu such as D3, Vitamin C, etc.
There are a lot of knowledgeable freepers who would help you in this arena. (Research wise). Perhaps you can find a DO in your area that will guide and help you with the appropriate natural vitamins for pregnant women in order to prevent the flu naturally.
All of the best to you and your baby!!
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