Posted on 10/10/2009 4:18:47 PM PDT by real saxophonist
Really? Absentee parents or empty house, I could agree with you, but working moms, really? My four kids who are never- ever in a lonely house, and never without a parent or grandparent would probably not agree with that.
I think you are right. Also, do other FReepers out there think that teenagers should be kept on a short leash? From what I have gathered, Harris and Klebold did as they pleased. It’s like the Charlie Brown cartoons where the adults are a strange voice in the background. I don’t know the Klebold mother, but if I had to guess she paid her son very little attention and really did know nothing about what he was up to because she chose not to know.
Here’s an article about Klebold and Harris that another FReeper had posted a year or two back that was interesting:
The Depressive and the Psychopath
http://www.slate.com/id/2099203/
“Cops have no duty to protect any adult or child. “
If that’s the case, these people shouldn’t be cops. I can give a hundred examples of cops, sheriffs, deputies and peace officers protecting adults and children. If some cop can’t live up to that standard, he should’nt be a cop or sheriff.
Only a simpering cop would whimper that he has no duty to protect adults and children.
Shes basically still thinking that in some way, he was a victim.
A LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE MINDSET AND A WASHING OF A GOOD BRAIN WITH PROPAGANDA. “killers are victims too”
My hair and how I looked for the world would be the last thing I would be thinking about.
I don’t think growthful is a word.
A few weeks ago I was just about to fall asleep when I heard a “gun shot”...one shot. ...then quiet. I live in a nice area, in a small condo building with a few other buildings...a VERY quiet neighborhood.
I called my neighbor and said, “did you hear that?” She said, yes ..also thought it was a gunshot. It was dark, I saw nothing so I got on the phone and called 911. The police were there in minutes and I went downstairs when the dispatcher said they were just talking to someone and it was NOT a gunshot.
I was pretty shook up as I thought at first, it was a suicide. The police were talking to the teenage boy that lives in another building...there are very few kids here.
It turns out he had tried an “experiment “ he saw on TV You tube and the bottle blew up and popped.
The point of this story is...here comes his mom.She tells the police that “He saw something on Youtube and wanted to try it.He didn’t mean to wake anyone up”..then to the kid, “ Now say you’re sorry.” Kid mumbled “sorry”. ..
I said looking straight at the kid, “Are you sure you don’t have a gun?” ....and then off they trotted.
I tell this story cause if that had been me as a teenager:
1. I would not be wandering around at 11pm on a school night “experimenting”
2. My parents would have been furious and ashamed. ..no doubt my dad would have grabbed me and yanked me around and yelled at me.
The times have changed....”Now, say you are sorry...and tell them you didn’t mean anything.”
My parents were very strict and to this day I am grateful for their love.
. I wanted and enjoyed my two...
.. and their daily existence and emotional well being were important to my husband and I.
We were 24/7 with them....
...and God was central to our child rearing....social activities....etc.
Now they are grown.... and we continue to maintain good contact with them, love and respect.
There is no legal obligation to be every single individual's personal bodyguard. If you don't think your life is worth protecting then why should government mercenaries care about it.
My parents were strict but loud noises around the house were just asking for an ass beating. As far as todays measure goes you would hardly believe it’s crossbow season! :^)
I think the point is ....how could anyone be so detached to keep a hair appointment when their child is dead and their child is the reason other parent’s children are dead.
Mine were super strict also....they LOVED us.....they CARED......they were CONCERNED about us. I thank them and I thank God FOR them.
There was one wounded faculty member, in particular, who almost certainly bled out because of that delay in confronting the two scum.
As I’ve read the replies, I’ve though to myself that I haven’t read the whole article so I cannot really judge all of Mrs. Klebold’s thoughts and comments on her son’s actions at Columbine. I don’t know all that she had to say. Unless I buy a copy of Oprah’s magazine, which I never do, I do not feel that I am in a position to judge.
But when I go to sleep tonight I will thank God for my two beautiful children and the very close relationship that I have with them. I’m blessed to be a stay at home mother. And I’m thankful that I have that opportunity.
Yeah, I guess the Virginia Tech massacre never happened...
The psychiatrists can't help speculating what might have happened if Columbine had never happened. Klebold, they agree, would never have pulled off Columbine without Harris. He might have gotten caught for some petty crime, gotten help in the process, and conceivably could have gone on to live a normal life.
Their view of Harris is more reassuring, in a certain way. Harris was not a wayward boy who could have been rescued. Harris, they believe, was irretrievable. He was a brilliant killer without a conscience, searching for the most diabolical scheme imaginable. If he had lived to adulthood and developed his murderous skills for many more years, there is no telling what he could have done. His death at Columbine may have stopped him from doing something even worse.
It’s sad how so many people blame the parents, especially Mom, in cases like this. None of us know the situation and none of us is/was a perfect parent.
Please think twice before you say that again. It is the most patronizing, superior thing you can say and it is also blasphemy because I don’t believe you mean it in the true sense.
If you really had the intent, you would not put it on this site to proclaim your superiority.
Where I grew up(suburban Sacramento), gunshots were a nightly occurrence, as was the sound of hovering police helicopters.
I wouldn’t have thought twice about a single gunshot.
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