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Respected Democrat Encourages 'Naive' Obama to Emulate Bush; Honored Vet Says 'Stan Not 'Nam
Sunday, October 11, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 10/11/2009 11:34:51 AM PDT by kristinn

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To: kristinn

At least the former Senator could no longer take it and spoke up. Good for him.


61 posted on 10/11/2009 6:44:56 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (I'll go back to when I joined this great site back in 2005....Honor must be earned....)
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To: Marine_Uncle

It wouldn’t surprise me, MU!


62 posted on 10/11/2009 6:48:16 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: ohioWfan

“... Americans don’t want to lose this war ...”

A really good kid from our church was killed over there. His dad told the younger dads at a recent camp out to take time for such times with their kids b/c they don’t know how long they will have together.

Anyway, he and his family gave all. In a way, he and other like him stood in the gap for us. Maybe my little boys won’t have to go to war, thanks to the good guys.

If the generals think we can win it and see a way forward, I think Obama should take their advice.


63 posted on 10/11/2009 6:48:42 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (Where are we going, and why are we in a hand-basket?)
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To: Cloverfarm
So sad, but that Dad is right. Treasure each moment with those little boys.

I prayed when my boys were born that there wouldn't be a war when they got older. Our younger son enlisted 2 weeks before 9/11 and every moment of his two deployments was nearly unbearable for us, but God graciously allowed him to come home.

I don't take for granted for one second what we were given, and I pray for each member of each family of those who have fallen and the unbearable grief they have to deal with.

The thought that our troops, who truly stand in the gap for us, now have a CinC who doesn't give a rip about them is devastating, especially after having President Bush, who respected and loved them. I doubt that Obama will make the right decision. That would take judgement and character, and he has neither.

PRAY for our troops.

64 posted on 10/11/2009 7:05:51 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: supremedoctrine

I’d like to hear from Sam Nunn and Zell Miller.

Good for Bob Kerrey. It looks like he’s one of just a handful of rats who cares more about his country and the fate of our armed services members than he does for partisan politics.

I realize Kerrey isn’t running for anything, but it still took some cojones to write the piece, given the rats’ extremely heavy grip on power.


65 posted on 10/11/2009 7:06:02 PM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: RichInOC

.....and finagled a purple heart for stubbing his toe or something.


66 posted on 10/11/2009 7:08:14 PM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: real saxophonist

How can people be members here and not know the difference between John Kerry and Bob Kerrey?

Good grief.


67 posted on 10/11/2009 7:10:17 PM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: kristinn

bttt


68 posted on 10/11/2009 7:11:59 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: kristinn

K, we have to do something.

No way in hell these guys will go through the hell of what was done to their elder brothers in Nam.


69 posted on 10/11/2009 7:23:47 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Lord forgive me... we know he's anti-Christ. The pride and chaos get him the pit again.)
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To: Poe White Trash
the perspective you present is what I got in the news while growing up

lol..so who you gonna believe?

we have plenty of Vietnam vets here maybe they can answer..

70 posted on 10/11/2009 9:44:12 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: CaliforniaCon

Hollywood will find out soon that when push comes to shove the public gives a rats ass what they think/say.


71 posted on 10/11/2009 10:49:35 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (Atchafalaya Basin; when you're there , thats the best)
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To: ohioWfan
GOOD for Kerrey for telling the truth about Obama and his naive apologetic, (anti-American) pseudo-foreign policy.

Ditto!

72 posted on 10/12/2009 1:35:37 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: wardaddy

>>> lol..so who you gonna believe? <<<

Walter Cronkite, of course!

He looked like such an affable, avuncular man when I watched him on the tube in the ‘70s. A paragon of objectivity who spoke with the voice of Authority and Reason. He was a high priest of the Fourth Estate, whose purpose it was to deliver to me unbiased news that was in the public interest, information I needed to know in order to be a good US citizen. News I could trust!

I’ve grown up since then, and my views on Unce Waltie (and TV and newspapers in general) are different. My, how times have changed!


73 posted on 10/12/2009 3:05:28 AM PDT by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: kristinn

This would mean something were it not for obama’s desire to destroy America.


74 posted on 10/12/2009 3:25:20 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: DakotaRed

Kerrey served in the United States Navy as a SEAL from 1966 to 1969 during the Vietnam War, lost the lower part of one leg in combat, and received the Medal of Honor. He was a member of Phi Gamma Delta.


75 posted on 10/12/2009 5:11:24 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: kristinn

Blind Squirrel....Acorn comes to mind.


76 posted on 10/12/2009 5:16:30 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: AndyJackson
One of the problems with Vietnam was that socially, economically and politically we were not on the right side of the war. Thus winning hearts and minds was nearly an impossible task, not that that is a tactic we tried much of.

This is what leftists have put up as the reason that Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam encountered large and debilitating communist insurgencies that required massive American troop intervention. For years, I believed this mantra. Then I read the rest of what they had to say about insurgencies, namely that they invariably win. Which is headshakingly wrong. Every Latin American country has had communist insurgencies at one time or another. The only two countries in which the insurgencies have won are Cuba and Nicaragua. Ditto with Southeast Asia. Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, Burma and Indonesia all encountered communist insurgencies and defeated them soundly.

The key difference with Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam? None of the countries that beat their domestic insurgencies had a long common border with Communist China, through which supplies could be shipped with impunity to the guerrillas and training could be provided with no threat to the sanctuaries in China itself. The Communists won in those three countries because (according to a Chinese source) the Chinese alone spent over $10b in free money assisting their comrades across the border, back when $10b was real money, and the Russians gave the North Vietnamese the credit they needed to purchase Migs, tanks and artillery that were subsequently used by the NVA to overrun South Vietnam, even as Congress cut off South Vietnam's aid. The North Vietnamese were still paying off Russian loans in the early 90's, before the Russians agreed to write the loan off in exchange for the termination of their lease of Vietnam's Cam Ranh Bay facilities, as well as lease payments that were in arrears.

77 posted on 10/12/2009 5:49:17 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: AndyJackson

I can’t believe this leftist propaganda that you are regurgitating is appearing here! Go to Vietnam and talk to the people there, including those in the Northern part of the country. They will tell you that they wish the South and the US had won!


78 posted on 10/12/2009 5:56:21 AM PDT by no_go_lie
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To: AndyJackson
Leftists have tended to ascribe moral superiority to communists in general. When they win, it must be because they have the support of the population. When they lose, it's in spite of the fact that they have the support of the population. I think it's a load of BS. Communists committed a lot of atrocities to coerce locals into cooperating with them, much as insurgents did in Iraq. The fact that the Communists had to commit atrocities in order to secure cooperation made it clear that the "support" was grudging and offered only if the alternative was a painful death.

Besides, military victory and the support of the population are distinct things. Most of the time, the people are just sitting around supporting their families and hoping to avoid being conscripted by the armies fighting around them. And for good reason. They know that the parties to the war aren't fighting it for their benefit. It's an outright struggle for power in which both sides are looking to them for employment as cannon fodder.

79 posted on 10/12/2009 6:15:23 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: kristinn

Kerry is considered the anti-christ among many New York hipster youths for his attempt to make the New School a credible academic institution.


80 posted on 10/12/2009 6:17:24 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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