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Mom Arrested for Washing Kid's Mouth With Soap
nbcmiami.com ^ | 10/14/09 | TODD WRIGHT

Posted on 10/14/2009 8:54:11 AM PDT by Abathar

A Palm Bay woman and her boyfriend were arrested Monday for child abuse after the couple went old school to punish their 8-year-old daughter for swearing.

They washed her mouth out with soap.

We don't know about you, but we would petition President Obama and Congress to make it mandatory for every parent to carry a bar of Irish Spring in their back pockets with all the profanity kids use today.

Police claim Adriyanna Herdener and Wilfredo Rivera went too far by placing a bar of soap in the girl's mouth and letting it stay for 10 minutes. Herdener did not intervene in the discipline.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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Wow, if they used these guidelines when I was a kid my parents would still not be eligible for parole.
1 posted on 10/14/2009 8:54:11 AM PDT by Abathar
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To: Abathar

2 posted on 10/14/2009 8:56:31 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Abathar

The elitists are enforcing their 1st Commandment -

thou shalt have no authority but us.

That means that parents and especially fathers will have no say in the raising of children.


3 posted on 10/14/2009 8:58:10 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Abathar

Ma would put the bar of soap in my mouth.

Dad would follow-up with the belt when he got home.

Then they’d want to know where I learned it. If it was from somebody they knew, they would call his parents.


4 posted on 10/14/2009 8:58:21 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Abathar
They messed up...See,what you do is insert the bar in the mouth and work it around for just a minute or so. It sticks to the teeth and gets that mouth nice and clean. They shouldn't have left it in for ten minutes.If it's done right,it doesn't take but a minute or so of your time to get the message across.

(Not that I would know...just sayin'...:)
5 posted on 10/14/2009 8:58:36 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (And the people cry "Sarah!Sarah!" And she hears....yes,she hears......)
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To: Abathar

He was blinded by. . . . . . SOAP POISONING!


6 posted on 10/14/2009 8:58:36 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Abathar
The girl eventually vomited and Rivera took her to the local hospital, where hospital staff called police.

Duh.

7 posted on 10/14/2009 8:58:52 AM PDT by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: Westbrook

Your parents must have known my parents.


8 posted on 10/14/2009 8:59:46 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: Abathar

My sister put soap in her kid’s mouth. She heard the other two giggling. When she turned around the oldest was blowing bubbles around the bar that was still in his mouth.


9 posted on 10/14/2009 8:59:54 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: MrB

The children will be informing on their parents for cash and prizes soon.


10 posted on 10/14/2009 8:59:57 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

I’m “dropping off the grid” if that happens.


11 posted on 10/14/2009 9:00:42 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: gimme1ibertee

My mom made me bite a chunk off chew it for while.

Gods, I can still taste that stuff even after all these years...


12 posted on 10/14/2009 9:00:48 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

I always used Vinegar.


13 posted on 10/14/2009 9:00:55 AM PDT by Rebelbase (This is the time of year when ACORNS fall.)
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To: Abathar

“Wow, if they used these guidelines when I was a kid my parents would still not be eligible for parole.”

Mine either...... fear of the known is a good fertizlier for healthy respect


14 posted on 10/14/2009 9:00:58 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (We the people, ..... never)
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To: Abathar

Couple of strokes on the tongue with a fresh bar does wonders. ;-)


15 posted on 10/14/2009 9:01:17 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ($$$$$OBAMA MONEY!!!$$$$$ /s)
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To: Rebelbase

Vinegar or hotsauce for “misuse of the tongue”.


16 posted on 10/14/2009 9:01:57 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Abathar

"It....was....soap...poisoning!"

17 posted on 10/14/2009 9:02:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: mom4melody

Who also knew my parents.


18 posted on 10/14/2009 9:02:47 AM PDT by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: browardchad

>>The girl eventually vomited and Rivera took her to the local hospital, where hospital staff called police.

Duh.<<

Seriously. I would have looked at her and told her to clean it up.

That’s what my Dear Departed Dad would have done and he was a wise man.


19 posted on 10/14/2009 9:02:48 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Abathar

Heck, if they make it retroactive I will never get out of jail!


20 posted on 10/14/2009 9:03:21 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Abathar

So long as it wasn’t Lava soap, I don’t have a problem with it.


21 posted on 10/14/2009 9:03:34 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Abathar

I learned how to talk back to my parents with a bar of soap in my mouth......


22 posted on 10/14/2009 9:03:42 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Genoa

Ralphie: “Over the years I got to be quite a connoisseur of soap. My personal preference was for Lux, but I found Palmolive had a nice, piquant after-dinner flavor - heady, but with just a touch of mellow smoothness. Life Buoy, on the other hand...YECCH!”


23 posted on 10/14/2009 9:03:56 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit (I shot the rooster, the one that used'er, wake me up at four A.M....)
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To: onedoug

ping


24 posted on 10/14/2009 9:04:00 AM PDT by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
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To: mom4melody

I thing they were on the same committee as mine.


25 posted on 10/14/2009 9:04:10 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: netmilsmom

My mom would have accused me of using the vomit to spit it out early and re-applied as necessary.


26 posted on 10/14/2009 9:04:11 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

YUCK!
I don’t ever remember actually eating soap,but my paternal gramndmother (an old country woman from the wilds of WV)did shove a tablespoon of pepper in my mouth for sassin’.That was unpleasant enough! My most outstanding memory of parental punishment was the bear-paw of a hand that my dad had.He sure knew how to use it! And the belt was very effective as well.


27 posted on 10/14/2009 9:05:27 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (And the people cry "Sarah!Sarah!" And she hears....yes,she hears......)
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To: Abathar

#1 Arresting her was stupid.

#2 Dont put frigging soap in your kids mouth. With the chemicals that go into those things today, it is nowhere near the same type of soap some parent in the 50s used.


28 posted on 10/14/2009 9:06:29 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya see how that turned out?)
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To: gimme1ibertee

And to think we are still alive with families of our own and paying taxes... :)


29 posted on 10/14/2009 9:06:33 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: dfwgator

Warning some cursing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIEFTlNYnVw

great tribute video. Ralphie the Gangsta!


30 posted on 10/14/2009 9:06:51 AM PDT by CommieCutter (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/ht/qt/3013_08.html)
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To: Abathar
Yep! How ever did we survive before zero-tolerance and hand sanitizer? :)
31 posted on 10/14/2009 9:08:13 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (And the people cry "Sarah!Sarah!" And she hears....yes,she hears......)
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To: VanDeKoik

Ivory still tastes the same, even after all these years I can tell.


32 posted on 10/14/2009 9:08:29 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: browardchad

Yep, that’s where they went wrong. So what, the kid vomited. There was no cause for a trip to the hospital. My son vomited every time he didn’t get his way about anything. Mama don’t play that game.


33 posted on 10/14/2009 9:08:32 AM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Abathar

WOW!
Your mom is tough!!!!


34 posted on 10/14/2009 9:09:54 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: VanDeKoik
....it is nowhere near the same type of soap some parent in the 50s used.

I know, my parents used homemade lye soap. Now that will get your attention in a second. Just the suds on a washcloth and stuffed in my mouth was enough.

35 posted on 10/14/2009 9:11:07 AM PDT by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: Westbrook

“Ma would put the bar of soap in my mouth.

Dad would follow-up with the belt when he got home.

Then they’d want to know where I learned it. If it was from somebody they knew, they would call his parents.”

I think we grew up in the same family. The secret with the soap is to drag it across the teeth so it lasts longer. I learned that at age 6. Dad had his belt that he would double and up snap, but mom was actually worse as she would in the heat if the moment grab a wooden spoon or worse yet a hair brush. If she couldn’t catch us then it was “wait until your father gets home”
When we were a little older he would get a phone call and then bring home the “board of education” as he was the High school principal at the time.


36 posted on 10/14/2009 9:11:12 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE
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To: Abathar
Likely Lava. The kid will probably go blind./sarc
37 posted on 10/14/2009 9:11:37 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: VanDeKoik

My parents made us chew Fels Naptha. Not sure there is anything nastier.


38 posted on 10/14/2009 9:12:12 AM PDT by Roccus (My anger is manufactured.......................................in the WHITE HOUSE and CONGRESS!!)
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To: VanDeKoik
RE the soaps of today.....
with all the EPA regulation and such,the soap should be so friggin' safe the kid should suck it through a straw and dip his candy bar in it!

But,of course, I do see your point. There are other ways to discipline a kid other than using soap. For instance,you can show up with them everywhere they go...THAT would be absolute torture for them. LOLOL
39 posted on 10/14/2009 9:12:16 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (And the people cry "Sarah!Sarah!" And she hears....yes,she hears......)
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To: Genoa

I remember talking back....Telling my mother that Ivory had lye in it and I could die.....


40 posted on 10/14/2009 9:12:31 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Abathar

Panty wastes everywhere!...

I got the bar of soap once for cussing and the belt once a month for having “fun”.....


41 posted on 10/14/2009 9:13:25 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: VanDeKoik

>>#2 Dont put frigging soap in your kids mouth. With the chemicals that go into those things today, it is nowhere near the same type of soap some parent in the 50s used.<<

OH come ON!
Every one of those chemicals is absorbed into your skin.
Unless you’re putting Fels Naptha in there, no kid will be poisoned.

And hellsbells, my Dad DID use Fels Naptha!


42 posted on 10/14/2009 9:13:33 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Rebelbase

My kids hate the vinegar


43 posted on 10/14/2009 9:14:04 AM PDT by Married with Children
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To: gimme1ibertee

Don’t get me started on what we survived -

Dirt clod wars, fireworks of every size and power, no helmets with any wheeled device no matter how high the ramp was, bb gun wars, bottle rocket wars, making our own explosives and blowing up yet another model of The Bismark, sledding down hills so steep that if you did hit one of the two trees you were dead, camping in the woods with real knives and matches, campfires so big you had to stand 30’ away from them or you got scorched...

Good grief I could go on all day I think.


44 posted on 10/14/2009 9:14:35 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Roccus

>>My parents made us chew Fels Naptha. Not sure there is anything nastier.<<

Mine too.
To this day, I can’t stand the smell of it.

But it really does work on Poison Ivy.


45 posted on 10/14/2009 9:14:53 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Abathar; Puppage; MrB; Westbrook; gimme1ibertee; Genoa; browardchad; mom4melody; netmilsmom; ...

This article is a flimsy shadow of the whole story. These “parents” (actually mom and mom’s latest “boyfriend”)belong in prison.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/brevard_news/101309_Couple_who_forced_child_to_eat_soap_free
“the mother’s boyfriend, Wilfredo Rivera, made her chew on soap for ten minutes, while the child’s mother, Adriyanna Herdener, watched. . . . Investigators say the child was crying, vomiting and foaming at the mouth. According to police, the boyfriend wouldn’t let the girl rinse out her mouth until she cleaned up her mess. Reports state the child’s lips, throat and tongue became swollen and was in pain. That’s when the mom asked her boyfriend to take the 8 year old to the hospital. . . . Police say Herdener didn’t go to the hospital because, she didn’t want to deal with the Department of Children and Families. But when DCF was called to the hospital, they say Rivera left with the child even before she was treated. Both were later arrested at her home. According to the DCF, the couple has a lengthy history of complaints.”


46 posted on 10/14/2009 9:15:07 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Abathar
Boyfriend and mom's mugs: There's not a snowball's chance in hell this girl said any "bad word" that she hadn't previously heard coming from the mouths of mom and mom's boyfriend.
47 posted on 10/14/2009 9:15:22 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: netmilsmom

I didn’t know my Dad had a brother. (see #38)


48 posted on 10/14/2009 9:15:56 AM PDT by Roccus (My anger is manufactured.......................................in the WHITE HOUSE and CONGRESS!!)
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To: CommieCutter
I'm dying here!! LOL ! Xmas story, office space memories, dancing thru my twisted head. Thanks :)
49 posted on 10/14/2009 9:16:26 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Page 73, Johnson, Navin)
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To: BornToBeAmerican

Once I tied footholds in my dads 80 foot long rope and climbed down to the ground from the second floor. When he found the rope later, I could hear him yelling from my friends house across the street.....


50 posted on 10/14/2009 9:17:10 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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