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To: justiceseeker93

McCain’s birth status was clear from the beginning. He was a Natural Born Citizen of the US, iaw the Constitution.

The Panama Canal Zone was considered to be US territory and was under US control at the time of his birth there in the Navy hospital. Both of his parents were US citizens.


27 posted on 10/16/2009 9:37:23 PM PDT by octex
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To: octex
McCain’s birth status was clear from the beginning. He was a Natural Born Citizen of the US, iaw the Constitution. The Panama Canal Zone was considered to be US territory and was under US control at the time of his birth there in the Navy hospital. Both of his parents were US citizens.

His birth status was controversial going back to his first Presidential run. His being a natural-born citizen was and is in doubt under the Constitution.

The Panama Canal Zone was leased. Do you seriously entertain the idea, that we just handed over sovereign territory? The nation of Panama did not cede jurisdiction completely, and under the Constitution of Panama, John McCain was born a citizen of Panama. By virtue of his having been born of two U.S. citizen parents, John McCain was born a citizen of the U.S. as well.

That Senate Resolution, SR 511, would have been completely unnecessary, had there been no controversy over John McCain's citizenship status. And, the many Senate Bills, seeking to amend the Constitution, in order to extend natural-born citizenship to children born outside the country to military parents, would also be entirely unnecessary.

You're engaging in wishful thinking. The law and the Constitution do no support what you've said, unfair as it may sound. There are practical reasons to exclude individuals with foreign citizenship claims upon them from the Presidency, though, no matter how that foreign citizenship was acquired, or under what circumstance.

36 posted on 10/17/2009 5:14:31 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: octex
The Panama Canal Zone was considered to be US territory and was under US control at the time of [McCain's] birth there in the Navy hospital.

I would agree with you as to the status of the Canal Zone at the time of McCain's birth. In fact, I have several older maps with the indication of the Canal Zone as "CANAL ZONE (U. S.)" Furthermore, the Canal Zone, though not a state, traditionally sent its own delegates (as did the other US territories) to the GOP and Dem presidential conventions - until Carter gave it back to Panama.

However, there seems to be some dispute as to whether the Navy hospital at which McCain was born was located in the Canal Zone or just outside of it in Panama.

Regardless, I think it is reasonable to pass legislation specifying that children born at a US government facility anywhere in the world to two US citizen parents are natural born citizens. For some reason, this has never been done.

39 posted on 10/17/2009 5:22:13 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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