Posted on 10/20/2009 7:57:50 PM PDT by pissant
Being a “birther” has little to do with Obama’s birth certificate. The birth certificate is just a symbol of all of the stuff that Obama keeps hidden from the American People.
Obama has lived for almost 50 years without leaving any footprints — none! There is no Obama documentation — no bona fides — no paper trail — nothing.
Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released (lawyers’ fees = $2,000,000 ~ birth certificate = $15)
Certification of Live Birth — Released — Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released (if one exists)
Obama/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators)
Kindergarten records — Records lost (this is a big one — read two frames)
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Fransiskus Assisi School School application — Released (by independent investigators)
Punahou School records — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators)
Selective Service Registration — Released — Counterfeit
Social Security Number — Under suspicion
Occidental College records — Not released
Passport — Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama’s terrorism and intelligence adviser.
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None
Illinois Bar Records — Not released.
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
You wouldn’t hire a guy with this CV to mow your lawn.
Thomas “What the matter with Kansas” Frank and Hofstadter are both full of it. Especially Hofstadter seeing how he’s been dead for a while. Paranoia fully exists in the Democrat Party and upper reaches of libdom. You only have to visit Dummyunderground for a few minutes to view real nutty paranoid behavior on exhibit. Hofstadter wrote that article forty-five years ago in a direct attack on Barry Goldwater in an effort to get him defeated. Which worked. LBJ got elected, and we know how his admin turned out. But what does Frank say now about conservative paranoia with the Obama admin attempts to shut down FOX news and conservative talk radio. Who’s being paranoid?
I knew a guy (co-worker) who was kicked out by the Birchers. He was too radical even for them. He was a nice guy (no, really), but a real anti-Semite. He even used to praise Hitler’s “artwork”, which made me laugh. He’ been writing letters to the editor for decades to my local lib paper. In his columns he criticizes Israel and supports the Palestinians. I doubt the average reader knows the extent of his anti-Semitism.
Think about this.
Its a fact that we have elected a dual citizen at birth.
This now means that in the future we can elect the King of England to the Presidency, if the Prince has his wife give birth on US soil.
Democrats now argue that birth on us soil, regardless of parentage is a “Natural Born Citizen”.
230 years after removing the king of England from our Government, we now qualify him as a presidential candidate without amending the constitution.
In the future, It should not be a surprise to see the Worlds elite making birth trips to the US for access to the presidency.
Now we are paying the price.
As as Joe Walsh put it, You're Never Alone With a Schizophrenic.
Meanwhile, the nuts over at JBS were frightened that adding fluoride to water to reduce tooth decay was a Commie plot.
Believe me, I know where you're coming from! I was a pro-Israel Fundamentalist who joined the John Birch Society in 1977 because I thought they shared my beliefs. I can't tell you what a shock it was to discover that so many "conservatives" were hostile to Israel.
The quasi-official theology of the JBS is "chr*stian reconstructionism," an anti-Israel ideology that is very, very different from the Pre-Millennial Fundamentalism I grew up with. Many JBS coordinators (at least in the past) peddled an anti-Israel book entitled The Rapture Cult "on the side." According to this book, both the State of Israel and pre-millennial Fundamentalism are plots of "the conspiracy." I believe the full text of this book is available online. This anti-Israel position is also elucidated on a viciously anti-Jewish site called "We Hold These Truths," which is run by a man named Chuck Carlson (not to be confused with Chuck Colson!). It features a nasty little department labeled "Pharisee Watch."
For a long time (and I didn't know anything about this growing up!) even mainstream conservative publications like Human Events and National Review were pro-Arab and anti-Israel. And during his first term in the Senate Jesse Helms, the Southern Baptist per excellence, was also rabidly anti-Israel and even called for the US to break off relations with Israel at one point. Thank G-d he changed and was staunchly pro-Israel for the remainder of his career in the Senate.
When I first joined FR in '99 it was infested with Jew-haters, some of whom used the names of notorious Nazis as their screen names. Most of them (but not all) have long since departed. I hope you understand that was once exactly as you are and didn't have the slightest idea that any "conservative" was anti-Israel. I learned the hard way. For a while there it seemed as if pro-Israel conservatives had no political representation at all, since almost all the conservative politicians were anti-Israel. I believe the Internet has empowered the old-fashioned Bible-believing pro-Israel conservatives to contest with the anti-Semites and has played a role in making the conservative movement pro-Israel. Thank G-d!
At any rate, I've been around the block. I know where you're coming from (it's where I came from as well), but believe me (and I say this with no joy whatsoever) that for a long time "conservatism" was actually quite hostile to Israel and some of it still is. I know what I'm talking about. I've been there. And I learned the hard way.
My impressions are from the left coast, the inner sanctum of Hollywood tripe.
I defer to your clearly more abundant understanding of the topic. But I sure wish (some, perhaps most) Jews weren’t on balance so fundamentally hostile to traditional America.
It’s really frustrating. It’s all you see in Hollywood movies. Bashing traditional roles.
Bashing the Catholic church. Bashing what’s good and just, and building up that which is fundamentally wrong.
How can those who are so closely associated with such a righteous nation as Israel, be so wrong about so many things when they arrive in America?
It’s confounding.
All you say is true, but why in the world Israel should be blamed for and made to suffer for the sins of liberal American Jews is beyond me.
And for your information, the American Catholic Church is itself quite hostile to the Fundamentalist Protestants of the rural American heartland and often uses negative stereotypes as horrid as those used by any liberal Jew.
The JBS is basically "chr*stian reconstructionist," anti-Fundamentalist, anti-Israel, and a continuation of the people who thought we fought on the wrong side in WWII. They are opposed to the "war on terror" and to American "interference" in the Middle East (because they think it benefits Jews) but they had no problem with the military draft in the Sixties or "American interference" in Central America in the Eighties. It's only bad for America when "democracy" gets exported to the Middle East. And no, I am not a Wilsonian, but I do detest this hypocrisy.
Phew! That's the biggest load of Barney_Frankisms I've ever heard...
I was a member of the JBS during the Carter years. During that time (and during the Reagan years as well) the JBS was all for "American interference" in Latin America (ever hear of the Western Goals Foundation?). It seems they're only isolationists when it appears that "American interference" might benefit Jews or Israel.
I was not aware that Barney Frank was in the habit of defending Fundamentalist Protestants from their opponents.
Then more power to them!
I would like them but for their nutty anti-Israel positions.
At the least, Israel is an unsinkable carrier group in the middle east and the proverbiable “canary in the coal mine.”
I just sat through 8 years of skull & bones secret society, WTC brought down by Mossad on Bush's orders, Bush controlling oil prices to enrich his friends, the CIA listening in on my phone calls, geronimo's skull, the Dixie Chicks on Bush's death list, conservatives rigging national elections, Laura Bush murdering her high school boyfriend, bin Laden a personal friend of Bush, Cheney secretly running the government with Rupert Murdoch at his side, etc...
Now, suddenly this guy sees wacky conspiracy theories.
Very informative post.
Thank you.
(From another middle-american red neck.)
Ah, but was he an anti-Semite before he joined the Society?
Most good conservatives today don't know anything about how pervasive this anti-Semitism used to be on the Right. They've never heard of Willis Carto or Liberty Lobby or Spotlight or Conde McGinley or Joseph Kamp or Eustace Mullins or Prince Michel Sturdza or Nesta Webster or any number of other such sundry personalities. And it's probably better that they don't.
Unfortunately good and well-meaning conservatives simply don't understand the red flags that go up in Jews' minds when they hear certain terms (conspiracy, "international bankers," "the money power," etc.).
“The birchers I’ve known have not been anti-jew. But have been solidly anti-jihadist.”
Every bircher I have met socially gradually slides into anti-semetic vitriol when drunk.
Thank you.
(From another middle-american red neck.)
You're welcome, and thank you for the kind words!
Unfortunately, while they don't make as much noise as they used to, apparently there are still such people as I described on this forum. I'm the most reactionary, Theocratic, anti-modern FReeper there is (and I spend most of my time on FR nowadays defending Fundamentalist Protestants and Biblical inerrancy) but they take one look at my screen name and assume I'm an "Insider."
That’s OK. People look at my name and see “mason.”
As in my name comes from the murderous traitor in masonic lore; Birchers don’t like masons, either.
FWIW, I picked my name because it is a parable of the “we all are” killers of Jesus Christ. I use it to remind myself of my own sins.
In general, I enjoy your posts. disagree with your theology, but that’s between you and God. (Plus, I’m of the once saved, always saved, group, so I opine you’re OK, even if you don’t admit it.)
Not of fan of Wiki, due to it’s liberal bias (and general sloppiness) but since when can people not cite to it.
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