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To: Zionist Conspirator
I don't think Eretz Israel has earned the wrath of conservatives. We fight like crazy for Israel. Conservatives are rooting for Bibi and wish they'd nuke Iran off the map. The paleo Cons (Buchannan) are isolationists and may not support Israel. But, real Conservatives support Israel and its right to exist. If I were in charge, the Temple Mount would be bulldozed and turned over to the Lubavitcher for reconstruction. Islam would cease to exist in Israel.

As for getting even with Leftists, I could care less which god they worship. I'll let my G-d sort it out...

51 posted on 10/20/2009 9:13:18 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington
I don't think Eretz Israel has earned the wrath of conservatives. We fight like crazy for Israel. Conservatives are rooting for Bibi and wish they'd nuke Iran off the map. The paleo Cons (Buchannan) are isolationists and may not support Israel. But, real Conservatives support Israel and its right to exist. If I were in charge, the Temple Mount would be bulldozed and turned over to the Lubavitcher for reconstruction. Islam would cease to exist in Israel.

Believe me, I know where you're coming from! I was a pro-Israel Fundamentalist who joined the John Birch Society in 1977 because I thought they shared my beliefs. I can't tell you what a shock it was to discover that so many "conservatives" were hostile to Israel.

The quasi-official theology of the JBS is "chr*stian reconstructionism," an anti-Israel ideology that is very, very different from the Pre-Millennial Fundamentalism I grew up with. Many JBS coordinators (at least in the past) peddled an anti-Israel book entitled The Rapture Cult "on the side." According to this book, both the State of Israel and pre-millennial Fundamentalism are plots of "the conspiracy." I believe the full text of this book is available online. This anti-Israel position is also elucidated on a viciously anti-Jewish site called "We Hold These Truths," which is run by a man named Chuck Carlson (not to be confused with Chuck Colson!). It features a nasty little department labeled "Pharisee Watch."

For a long time (and I didn't know anything about this growing up!) even mainstream conservative publications like Human Events and National Review were pro-Arab and anti-Israel. And during his first term in the Senate Jesse Helms, the Southern Baptist per excellence, was also rabidly anti-Israel and even called for the US to break off relations with Israel at one point. Thank G-d he changed and was staunchly pro-Israel for the remainder of his career in the Senate.

When I first joined FR in '99 it was infested with Jew-haters, some of whom used the names of notorious Nazis as their screen names. Most of them (but not all) have long since departed. I hope you understand that was once exactly as you are and didn't have the slightest idea that any "conservative" was anti-Israel. I learned the hard way. For a while there it seemed as if pro-Israel conservatives had no political representation at all, since almost all the conservative politicians were anti-Israel. I believe the Internet has empowered the old-fashioned Bible-believing pro-Israel conservatives to contest with the anti-Semites and has played a role in making the conservative movement pro-Israel. Thank G-d!

At any rate, I've been around the block. I know where you're coming from (it's where I came from as well), but believe me (and I say this with no joy whatsoever) that for a long time "conservatism" was actually quite hostile to Israel and some of it still is. I know what I'm talking about. I've been there. And I learned the hard way.

69 posted on 10/21/2009 8:20:56 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayhi hageshem `al-ha'aretz; 'arba`im yom ve'arba`im laylah.)
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