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'It Was All A Lie' (Logan WV 'torture' victim recants story)
WV Metro News ^ | 21 Oct 2009 | WV Metro News

Posted on 10/21/2009 5:27:50 AM PDT by relictele

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To: MrB

That was my first thought. They all look like Hick Heroin users


21 posted on 10/21/2009 5:56:09 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
I agree. And since I have no knowledge of this particular case, maybe I should stop there -- but it's the internet, so I'll throw in a last thought:

If your lawyer tells you that conviction is a done deal, that the simple fact is that you will be doing time for kidnapping and sexual assault, then that kind of ruins your day. But wait! Your lawyer has good news! if you plead innocent and go through a long trial, the jail time will be very severe, but if you plead guilty, the jail time will be bad, but perhaps not as bad as it would be otherwise. So, your lawyer recommends that you make lemonade from lemons and just plead guilty.

Some would. Some wouldn't. I suspect these folks did.

22 posted on 10/21/2009 5:58:17 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: AppyPappy
I would be more interested in why they all plead guilty. This wasn’t a minor sentence. They were looking at hard time.

An answer may be in what has happened to a friend of a friend here in Iowa. He was accused of child molesting. I have no idea whether he did or didn't. This guy was offered 10 years to plead guilty. He claims he was innocent, and went to trial. At trial he was found guilty, and was given life with a chance of parole at 40 years. He went in the klink at age 20, and 23 years later, he is still in the klink.

So think about if you are in that sitch. You can go to court, and get life, or possibly get off and get no time. Or you take the 10 years. Maybe these folks decided not to chance the long time.

23 posted on 10/21/2009 6:01:34 AM PDT by Pappy Smear (Support the presidency, end the policies.)
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To: relictele

Meanwhile in Knoxville: The rape, torture and murder by blacks against two white kids isn’t a hate crime.


24 posted on 10/21/2009 6:03:32 AM PDT by sticker
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To: Izzy Dunne

From what I’m reading, these folks were mostly criminal low-lifes even before this incident, so they may have realized that there was no way they were going to be found not guilty.


25 posted on 10/21/2009 6:04:44 AM PDT by Sloth (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of the International Olympic Committee.)
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To: DogBarkTree

I hear BANJOS!


26 posted on 10/21/2009 6:10:07 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Pappy Smear

I can see one or two taking that deal but not all of them.

Here’s a scenario. They pooled their money and said to her “We’ll give you $30,000 and this pillowcase full of Meth to say it never happened. If you don’t agree, we start killing your family”. It is WV after all.

Since they plead guilty, recanting is going to be messy. The judge can assume the victim is lying now under the guise of “If she says she was lying then, how do we know she isn’t lying now?”.


27 posted on 10/21/2009 6:10:42 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: relictele

Fake crimes are hate crimes. Hopefully the hoaxer will be put away for a long time, but we know she won’t.


28 posted on 10/21/2009 6:11:01 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: relictele

But Brian Abraham, the former Logan County prosecutor who oversaw those cases, dismissed the news conference as a publicity stunt.

Abraham says the seven, who all pleaded guilty, were convicted on physical evidence and their own statements, not statements from Williams.

http://www.fox8.com/news/sns-ap-wv—womantortured,0,2140943.story

Just covering his ass? Weird story.


29 posted on 10/21/2009 6:11:12 AM PDT by big black dog
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To: relictele

But it wasn’t a lie lie because somewhere someone might have committed such a crime.


30 posted on 10/21/2009 6:48:02 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Little Pig

Oh, I see. Guilty because you’re poor and unattractive.

Okay then. Great way to judge people’s guilt or innocence.


31 posted on 10/21/2009 6:49:52 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: AppyPappy; MrB

Odds are drugs figured into the mix, thus the guilty pleas.


32 posted on 10/21/2009 6:54:51 AM PDT by SouthTexas (The IOC is racist!)
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To: Carley
You should look at the history of “phrenology” in criminal justice.

‘Your honor, look at the shape of the defendants skull; he is of the “low” type, a born criminal. Even if innocent of these particular charges - he is of the criminal ‘type’ and should be incarcerated away from society.’

‘Your honor, look at the shape of my clients skull. No man of such a “high” type could possibly commit such a heinous crime.’

etc, etc, ad nauseum.

33 posted on 10/21/2009 6:56:24 AM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: big black dog

This really is an odd story. If they do have “physical evidence” as they say they do, to back up the confessions, then you’ve got to wonder what’s up with Williams suddenly recanting her statements. She supposedly has some psychological issues (much like Duke lacrosse liar Crystal Mangum).

I’m not sure that *she* has a racial angle on this, so much as she was a vehicle for the Usual Suspects like Shabazz and Sharpton. Revund Al’s already come out with a statement urging the local law to “vindicate” the convicted if it turns out that Williams really was lying. CYA, Al baby, CYA.

}:-)4


34 posted on 10/21/2009 9:38:50 AM PDT by Moose4 (Ted Kennedy: "If they bring up Camelot, we get to bring up the lady in the lake.")
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To: relictele

well then why are all those backwards redneck crackers in the penitentiary if it was all a lie?


35 posted on 10/21/2009 1:55:37 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: LeonardFMason

that trailer is less than 15 miles from my current location. I know people whove dealt with that trash in the Logan Co court system. Believe me when I tell no one will miss them.


36 posted on 10/21/2009 1:57:54 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Probably because they know the criminal justice system isn’t necessarily just.


37 posted on 10/21/2009 3:50:11 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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