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Boeing nears decision on second 787 line
Seattle Times ^ | October 21, 2009 | Dominic Gates

Posted on 10/21/2009 12:29:27 PM PDT by jazusamo

Boeing will decide in the next two weeks whether to put a second 787 Dreamliner final assembly line in Everett or in Charleston, S.C.

Boeing has narrowed its decision on where to put a second 787 Dreamliner final assembly line to Everett and Charleston S.C., and will make a choice within the next two weeks.

The outcome could have a profound impact on where future Boeing airplanes are built, and the key question appears to be whether the Machinists union will accede to management's demand for a long-term no-strike agreement.

In a conference call with the press this morning, chief executive Jim McNerney said talks with the union are "ongoing and on a regular basis" and said "the tone is constructive."

But McNerney made clear that the company is considering Charleston specifically because of the recent history of repeated strikes by the International Association of Machinists (IAM) in the company's Puget Sound area factories.

"The IAM and the company have had trouble figuring it out between themselves over the last few contract discussions," McNerney said. "I've got to figure out a way to reduce that risk to the company."

"I don't blame this totally on the union," McNerney said. "We just haven't figured out a way. The mix isn't working well. We've either got to satisfy ourselves that the mix is different or we've got to diversify our labor base."

South Carolina is a so-called "right-to-work" state, meaning that employees do not have to join unions even if a workplace is unionized. That leaves labor unions weak compared to states like Washington.

In Boeing's Everett plant, all production workers have to be union members. In Charleston, the workforce recently ousted the union in a decertification vote.

If Boeing were to put a 787 final assembly line in Charleston...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 787; boeing; unions
I believe Boeing may be getting the attention of the Machinists union.
1 posted on 10/21/2009 12:29:27 PM PDT by jazusamo
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2 posted on 10/21/2009 12:31:22 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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from what I hear, the BMW plant in Greenville, SC is going great...


3 posted on 10/21/2009 12:32:31 PM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: jazusamo
I believe Boeing may be getting the attention of the Machinists union.

You would think but I'd bet a dollar to a donut that the union will not get the message. I expect Boeing to get a "Nudge" from the commie bastages in the White House any day now.
4 posted on 10/21/2009 12:34:06 PM PDT by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: jazusamo
Is this where I'm supposed to post the Boeing 797 picture?


5 posted on 10/21/2009 12:38:24 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: FreedomProtector; glaseatr

Around the first of the year when Boeing approached the union for a no strike clause the union laughed at them and said that Boeing was bluffing about a second line outside WA. Now that the workers in SC decertified and Boeing has a fairly large plant their anyway I believe it’s getting through to the union thugs that Boeing may not be bluffing.

It wouldn’t surprise me at all to see Boeing go with SC.


6 posted on 10/21/2009 12:39:51 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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I would think that at this point their highest priority should be to figure out how to build airplanes on the FIRST line.


7 posted on 10/21/2009 12:41:24 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ASA Vet
Is this where I'm supposed to post the Boeing 797 picture?

Yes! And a beautiful pic it is. :-)

8 posted on 10/21/2009 12:41:28 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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Survival of the company No doubt Charleston.
9 posted on 10/21/2009 12:42:24 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: DuncanWaring

That has been a problem, especially with the 787.


10 posted on 10/21/2009 12:42:52 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: glaseatr

“I don’t blame this totally on the union,” McNerney said.

I am a Boeing Employee and there are things that my union does and supports that I don’t agree with.

If McNerney has a problem with Strikes, maybe Boeing should stop pulling fast ones like last time.

They offered us a contract that they knew would be rejected,
then after we had been on strike for just over thirty days,
they offered us a contract that we would have accepted if they had originally offered it.

The point being, Boeing has a labor dispute clause in their contracts with customers that lets them Slide Delivery dates for Aircraft any time there is a labor dispute that lasts over thirty days.

They were in trouble with delivery of some aircraft so this is their gambit.

It has happened before and it will happen again.


11 posted on 10/21/2009 12:51:29 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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Unoions helped elect Obama and they killed GM and Chrysler. They can go to hell. I hope they move everything to SC.


12 posted on 10/21/2009 2:06:19 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's health care?)
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To: SwedeBoy2
I remember well what it was like to be in the Carpenter Union. The higher wages were a great benefit in helping me and my family during that time. What I found in the Union was it was ripe with those I would classify as Socialist.

I have been out of the union now for about 10 years and in that time I have found that the newer installers have no drive. The installers I grew up with hate it too. That I blame on several things, society, schools, and unions the biggest three.

Being on the other side now what I see is alot of companies are trying to break the unions due to lack of production from union employees, Perceived or real.
13 posted on 10/21/2009 7:05:53 PM PDT by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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