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Congressman McClintock on Solar Energy
Office of Rep. Tom McClintock ^ | 10/22/09 | Rep. Tom McClintock

Posted on 10/22/2009 3:02:33 PM PDT by calif_reaganite

M. Speaker: I rise in opposition to the rule and in opposition to the underlying bill. And to explain why, I’d like to walk through a little history and a little math.

Let’s begin with history and two important years: 1978 and 1839.

In 1978, the Wall Street Journal carried this headline: “Solar Power Seen Meeting 20 percent of Needs by 2000; Carter May Seek Outlay Boost.”

Oddly, the same paper carried a headline in 2006 making the same promise this time for all renewable fuels – only this time by 2025 – but I digress. (view newspaper headlines)

Billions of dollars were poured into research and development for solar technology, and an entire solar industry solely supported by massive subsidies arose to grab those dollars.

And what was the result of all of this plunder of taxpayers and ratepayers? More than 30 years after that promise was made in 1978, solar power accounts for just one percent of electricity generation. That’s not for lack of subsidies – it’s because despite billions of dollars of subsidies, the technology remains immensely inefficient and expensive.

And that brings me to the second year: 1839. This is not a new technology. Photovoltaic electricity was first discovered by French physicist Alexandre Edmond Becquerel in the year 1839.

This technology has existed for 170 years. And in those 170 years of scientific discovery and progress, and despite billions of dollars of subsidies to the solar industry, we have yet to discover a more expensive way of generating electricity!

When the state of California was squandering its wealth on subsidizing this industry a few years ago, I asked the California Energy Commission what is the price range of various forms of electricity generation.

And here is what they reported:

The cheapest form of electricity generation is hydroelectric. It ranges from a quarter cent to 2.7 cents per kilowatt hour – average around 1.5 cents.

Then comes nuclear power, with a midrange around 1.7 cents.

After that, coal, about 1.9 cents.

Then wind at 4.6 cents and then natural gas at 10.6 cents. And finally, we get to the most expensive way to produce electricity, solar, between 13.5 cents and 42.7 cents per kilowatt hour, with a mid-range of 28.1 cents.

It gets worse.

In a day, a solid acre of state-of-the-art solar panels can produce 2.2 megawatt hours of electricity, assuming an average of 5 hours of peak sunlight. 2.2 megawatt hours per day. Compare that to the Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant that produces 49,000 megawatt hours of electricity each day.

In order to duplicate that single nuclear power plant, it would require 22,000 acres of solid solar panels – or 34 square miles. By comparison, the Diablo Canyon Power Plant sits on one square mile.

So this technology, after 170 years and countless billions of dollars of research and development, is roughly 17 times more expensive than nuclear power and consumes 32 times the land area of a comparable nuclear facility.

But don’t worry, say the proponents of this bill. It just needs a few billion dollars more to become competitive. I’m sorry, but we’ve heard that song before.

I suppose hope springs eternal. For decades the federal government and gullible states like California have kept the solar industry afloat, pumping billions of dollars into subsidized loans, credits to consumers who buy solar panels and, of course, Research and Development ($166 million last year and $175 million this year by the Department of Energy alone).

This is an industry that exists solely of the dole, by the dole and for the dole. It is now clambering for billions of dollars more. And if this rule is passed and the bill is taken up, they’re going to get it – directly out of the shrinking savings accounts of American taxpayers.

The Solar Technology Roadmap Act of 2009. You’ve heard of the bridge to nowhere. This is the roadmap that will get us there.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: energy; luddites; mcclintock; solar

1 posted on 10/22/2009 3:02:33 PM PDT by calif_reaganite
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To: calif_reaganite

Nice article.


2 posted on 10/22/2009 3:08:28 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: calif_reaganite

I looked at solar for own home. The price was about $30,000.00. That’s if I stayed on grid. If I went off grid I would have to spend more on batteries. The way I figure it, it would take about 12.5 years for me to break even........maybe.


3 posted on 10/22/2009 3:08:48 PM PDT by RC2
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To: calif_reaganite
For those of you not familiar with Tom McClintock, he is one of the really good guys in politics. Oh, that he might have been elected governor in 2003 instead of the do-fuss Arnold Schwarzenegger. CA would be in so much better shape if he were governor instead of Arnold. But alas, the idiot voters wanted a movie star for governor. It's California after all. That's what's important. It's star power and not competence. What a joke California is. I know I live here.
4 posted on 10/22/2009 3:12:02 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: calif_reaganite

Man he’s cool!


5 posted on 10/22/2009 3:16:46 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: calif_reaganite

Exactly.

In a project I’m familiar with, a combination of solar thermal and solar photovoltaic, they need 15,000 acres to produce not quite a thousand megawatts.

They are essentially wiping out a whole valley.

A natgas plant could produce that much on about 40 acres.

There is nothing green about a solar farm. Solar is valuable as a niche source, for small needs off grid, and as a supplemental source on roof tops. But a large scale solar farm is far more environmentally disruptive than just about anything you could think of.


6 posted on 10/22/2009 3:29:52 PM PDT by marron
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To: RC2
I'm 100% solar, but I'm very far from the grid, and have very small power needs. No way I could run a conventional house with it. For the occasional large tool use, I have a diesel genset that covers those.

/johnny

7 posted on 10/22/2009 3:32:28 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: calif_reaganite

Excellent article. Reads like a chapter from Liberty and Tyranny.


8 posted on 10/22/2009 3:36:50 PM PDT by zipper
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To: truthguy

I went down on the mall to the solar decathlon sponsored by the dept of energy...last week. Lots of politicians there. Lots of really smart college students. I love those houses, but geesh the technology is so expensive.


9 posted on 10/22/2009 3:55:41 PM PDT by chalkfarmer
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To: calif_reaganite
If my memory is correct, Coal utilizing "Fluidized Bed Combustion" ( Coal and Limestone boiling like Lava) is @ 11 cents/KW-HR. and is clean. Without getting to into it, a former "Solar Roller" on this end, trained at the College level in some classes in it.

I to am still waiting for the "breakthrough" and that was in the Carter years when I started.....

10 posted on 10/22/2009 4:06:54 PM PDT by taildragger
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To: calif_reaganite
I sure like Tom McLintock.

Palin-McLintock? What a ticket!!!!

11 posted on 10/22/2009 4:12:12 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: calif_reaganite
The cheapest form of electricity generation is hydroelectric. It ranges from a quarter cent to 2.7 cents per kilowatt hour – average around 1.5 cents.

And California is ripping down its hydro-electric dams. How many ways can a state commit suicide?

12 posted on 10/22/2009 4:15:58 PM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: calif_reaganite
Brilliant as usual Congressman McClintock.


13 posted on 10/22/2009 4:54:44 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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To: marron
Your big problem is that you are logical. You actually work out the math. You should get more in touch with your feelings and get onboard the Solar bandwagon. It doesn't have to work mind you. It just needs to look cool. That's what's important. It needs to look like something is going on.

On a serious note, I wonder if any of these solar idiots have ever thought about what you do at night? Heck what if you have a couple of weeks without Sun? Does this even occur to these people? It's amazing the stupidity of the whole Solar crowd. I've debated these folks. They are as dumb as a box of rocks.
14 posted on 10/22/2009 6:46:58 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: chalkfarmer
It's not just that it's expensive, it doesn't work very well and doesn't work at all at night. When all the Greenies want to charge up thier electric cars at night where are they doing to get the electricity? They haven't figured that one out- all those really smart college students. I was also a college student 25 years ago when we had many more smart kids than we have today. I dont' think my generation (engineers) would have fallen for this solar scam.
15 posted on 10/22/2009 6:57:12 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: 444Flyer

Isn’t he the best? I love that guy.


16 posted on 10/22/2009 7:05:17 PM PDT by Lizavetta (In Communism, everything is free. But there isn't any of it.)
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To: Lizavetta
Yes. he is. I've been following his political carreer for years. And he is the REAL deal. You get what you see with him. No lies or hanky panky.

And he really is brilliant. His IQ must be in the stratosphere. He would make great Presidential material.

17 posted on 10/22/2009 9:35:45 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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To: 444Flyer
And he really is brilliant. His IQ must be in the stratosphere. He would make great Presidential material.

The problem is that he's partially wrong here. Not about the need to end subsidies, but about the technology. Today's solar is not the same as 170 years ago. The ability to specifically design materials that came with modern supercomputers has increased efficiency. That's like saying gene therapy will never work because in 1930 DNA hadn't been discovered yet (i.e. missing the point). Standardized manufacturing is also driving down cost. The next generation of silicon solar cells is half as thick as the last one, getting you a lot more wafers per ingot. I'm not saying that solar is cost competitive in 95% of the cases - it isn't. But McClintock's logic isn't up to par, either.
18 posted on 10/23/2009 4:30:13 AM PDT by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: truthguy

I’m not a greenie, I still have my pool open! I also enjoy talking to nerdy engineering students, even if they aren’t as smart as they were 25 years ago.


19 posted on 10/23/2009 6:47:50 AM PDT by chalkfarmer
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