[Wonder Warthog]

"There is only one reason capitalists engage in government influence and payoffs, etc......that is because the gov't can affect their business. If government would keep its nose out from regulating, preferences, etc, business would have no need to try and influence that government."

Dirtboy is right, and you are wrong. A specific example is the use of money power by the Walt Disney company to get legislation passed to extend the copyrights of their cartoon characters. Mickey Mouse should long ago have passed into the public domain.

Large accumulations of power, whether by government OR businesses, are bad.

[MNJohnnie]

Both you and dirtboy are wrong because you fall for the Marxist fraud that blames capitalism for the bad actions of Government.

Government choose to reward Disney and punish it's competitors, Disney merely defend it's interests in it's copyrights, Government acted to reward Disney.

The problem here is the Marxist have successfully indoctrinated too many Americans with this notion of the evil capitalist cabal.

Yes, there are bad actors in Business but to blanket blame all Corporations for bad actions at some corporations is simplistic nonsense. It also is a simple way to scapegoat business for the corrupt incompetence of Government. Rather then hold them accountable for their actions, the Left merely blames "Big business" for the failure of Government and the good little American voters buy the nonsense.

The solution is not a blanket condemnation of business but to hold Government accountable for it's failures. Government exists to protect us from force, fraud and abuse. The solution to it's failures is NOT to blame business but to hold Government accountable for it continual attempt to overreaching it's legitimate power.