Panel urges ending UCMJ’s sodomy ban

Stars and Stripes ^ | October 27, 2009 | By Lisa M. Novak

[Your6]

Unless married military couples are jailed for either oral or anla sex, then the law needs to be removed. It should only apply to same sex oral or anal sex.

We do not need male homosexuals in the services.

[PLMerite]

“We do not need male homosexuals in the services.”

Or female, for that matter.

[RinaseaofDs]

Adultery is a handy one to have around, however. It’s easy to meet the standards, and can be used in plea bargaining.

[Drew68]

“In fact, it appears that the majority of people prosecuted under Article 125 are straight,” Nix said in an e-mail to Stars and Stripes. He described the law as “a legal anachronism” and said it was selectively enforced.

We were informed in navy bootcamp that any sexual act that is *not* missionary sex between husband and wife is technically sodomy and punishable by the UCMJ. I've never heard of anyone going to mast over this though. Adultery and fraternization, yes, but never sodomy.

[cliff630]

Talk about inconsistency, we now have the mother of
all contradictions.

Fecal matter is one of the major sources of coliform
infections (Ecoli). In fact when it is discovered in
any food the Govt. orders massive recalls. Remember
lettuce, spinach, hamburger, and peanuts?

But the WH feels the Constitution gives them the right
to force health care.

I don't have any problem with any of LGBTT, folks
but I do have a problem with sodomy, whether practiced
by straight or gay couples.

With all our concern of H1N1, antrax, small pox, plague
it does seem strange this panel wants to assist in the
spread of Ecoli. Yes, the Texas court made an
egregious ruling.

[libertyhoundusnr]

Speaking as a former unit legal offficer, I would be inclined to believe that nearly all punishable UCMJ articles are selectively enforced.

[cliff630]

you wrote are selectively enforced

What laws, rules, behavior, etc. are NOT selectivity
enforced.

Atty Gen Holder is the first one to come to mind.

[ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY]

“...almost always the affair involves an officer and his/her subordinate,”

In the cases I mentioned, only one involved fraternization; the others were adulterous relationships with civilians, with another member’s wife, and such.
The Lt Gen was notorious for flying his military aircraft halfway across the country several times a month to meet with his mistress (ostensibly to meet with one of his remote units). It continued until the Maj General I worked for (at the base he flew to), refused to let it go.

[OldDeckHand]

"The Lt Gen was notorious for flying his military aircraft halfway across the country several times a month to meet with his mistress (ostensibly to meet with one of his remote units)."

Yep. That will do it every time. I wouldn't be surprised if a stunt like that not only ended a career but also ended with a little brig time.

To your original point, these things are prosecuted from time to time when it's not a fellow service member who is the "other party". Your personal experience notwithstanding, I'd estimate that few than 2/5ths of these prosecutions involve non-military "parties".