[whattajoke]

"New species arise not by the genetic changes within an individual; but from the changes and selective pressures within an entire interbreeding population;

I can't follow... Does metmom have an issue with this statement? I would suppose so... And this is where "fully formed" and "crocoducks" and other creationist canards come from. Although the literature is available to all, they still have the impression that evolution works via a monstrous interspecies creature that came to be via a horrible mutation and that grotesquely mutated creature was somehow capable of breeding other grotesque creature who then somehow became fully formed.

That's the perception of evolution that has many creationists so confused. Unfortunately, changes in allele frequency through time don't quite work that way.

At all.

[FormerRep]

Nor does it seem that a multiplicit mutagenics that result in non-interbreeding related intergrade species strike a logical chord...

[allmendream]

Indeed; they don't even understand the subject they are attempting to refute.

As ridiculous a spectacle as a bunch of special ed students taking the football and trying to compete against the pro’s without even an understanding of the rules by which the game is played.

To credibly refute or reject something one must first be able to understand it. But like the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland “verdict first, trial after”.