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To: ElectricStrawberry; narses; Petronski; wagglebee

>>The Catholic church stance on condoms coupled with their lies to African catholics in high AIDS zones that “condoms do not protect against AIDS” is killing people and should rightly be condemned.<<

Condoms are a false security.

http://www.epigee.org/guide/condomfaq.html

“Are condoms a good way to avoid being infected with HIV?

Condoms can reduce your risk of contracting an HIV infection. However, if your partner has HIV or AIDS, there is still a chance that you could acquire the virus even if you use condoms. A 1993 study found that, of 171 women whose male partner had HIV, two of the women became infected with HIV despite consistently and properly using condoms when they had sex. However, of those women who did not use condoms consistently with their male partner who had HIV, 8 out of 10 women became infected with HIV. Abstinence from vaginal, anal and oral sex is the only way to completely avoid the risk of HIV infection.”

“How often do condoms break?

Of the three different condom types, latex condoms are the most durable. However, anywhere from 2% to 6% of condoms will fall off or break during sex.”

So teaching condom use as opposed to abstinence is good because.......?


69 posted on 10/28/2009 6:43:58 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom
No, condoms are not perfect. Yes, you CAN still get AIDS, pregnant, or other disaeses.

BUT, condoms reduce the risk immensely, and will greatly decrease infection rates.....and in places like some of these countries in Africa that have atrocious HIV infection rates of 30% of the population, condom use WILL save lives.

According to your liked study, condom use lowered infection risk from 80% to 1+%.....not perfect, but better than teaching "Have no sex and no use of condoms" has EVER worked.

So teaching condom use as opposed to abstinence is good because.......?

....BECAUSE, afterall, humans are still animals and humans WILL have sex despite the teaching of the ideal of abstinence only. The world is not going to take up the celibate lives of those Catholic priests that actually DO lead celibate lives (I'll ignore the perverts for now). In addition, your own reported study was of married adults. You think married adults are not going to have sex? You think married adults in Africa are not going to have sex? Not going to procreate?

Abstinence-only is a religious ideal that even those pushing the religion can not and do not abide by and will always be an ideal that will never be met, not even close...not even remotely close...and that's what's being taught to Africans by the Catholic church right now...by the same catholic church that tells them they cannot wear condoms....bang up job it's doing.

...but who cares about a few million Africans per year anyway....screw 'em, we have an ideal to push....right?

86 posted on 10/28/2009 8:09:16 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with vegetarian T. rex within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: netmilsmom
“Are condoms a good way to avoid being infected with HIV?

They're not even considered a really good way to keep from getting pregnant?

Why would people be stupid enough to think that they're do much to prevent AIDS?

107 posted on 10/28/2009 10:48:17 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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