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The More They Know Darwin, The Less They Want Darwin-Only Indoctrination
Evolution News & Views ^ | October 27, 2009 | Anika Smith

Posted on 10/28/2009 7:34:50 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: BlueDragon
ok, the link didn't go thru. we'll try the long way, round instead of google docs.

http://www.mankindquarterly.org/muellersletter.pdf

141 posted on 10/29/2009 11:56:58 AM PDT by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to bo th variation & deviation)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

Here is my source.

http://www.post-gazette.com/healthscience/20010525mammal2.asp


142 posted on 10/29/2009 11:58:15 AM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: Ira_Louvin

see #141 for working link.


143 posted on 10/29/2009 11:58:27 AM PDT by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to bo th variation & deviation)
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To: Ira_Louvin

Ping to 140. I mentioned you by name but couldnt remember your full name to send it directly to you. Sorry!


144 posted on 10/29/2009 11:58:44 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: Ira_Louvin

Ping to 140. I mentioned you by name but couldnt remember your full name to send it directly to you. Sorry!


145 posted on 10/29/2009 11:58:46 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

I am asking that you simply provide empirical evidence to support your assertions


146 posted on 10/29/2009 12:00:00 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: Ira_Louvin

Answers to my questions please.

[Maybe you can do this all day but I’m about done here.]


147 posted on 10/29/2009 12:04:11 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: Ira_Louvin

“Other peoples opinions presented in the form of quotes are not evidence against the theory of evolution. They are merely opinions, and all people have opinions, which turn out to be false. So lets stick to the facts.”

I gave you two links to scientific studies and published papers, not people’s opinion.

I disagree that the evidence we have of speciation, natural selection etc etc etc can be extrapolated back into the past to say that an animal can jump from being a reptile to being a mammal. You have no empirical evidence to prove that it can yet you continue to assert that speciation IS evolution. This is a case in point of how evolutionist USE these terms to bait and switch and confuse people who don’t know better. Speciation is not evolution!


148 posted on 10/29/2009 12:04:40 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: Ira_Louvin; All

That is nice that a newspaper article can count for empirical evidence but that my links to two scientific studies and published papers are people’s opinions in quotes (evolutionary scientist’s papers BTW). Just so the ground rules are known to all.


149 posted on 10/29/2009 12:07:27 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: BrandtMichaels
Oooh, oooh, oooh Rafterman can I please be added to your CreatioNuts ping list - pretty please!? / s At least I’d be in good company...

You got it.

Now a days I will usually only answer the evos who are respectful and show a genuine respect for truth and knowledge.

Whose truth? Yours? Without evidence, it is not truth... only supposition.

You 3 (above) may think the creation camp is full of ‘retards’...

Please provide a link to a post where I called anyone a 'retard'.

...you may say (frequently) that we are the ones who are insulting but that is utter hypocrisy.

Bullsh*t. For example:

Morons tend to think someone is trying to make a moron out of them if what they are saying sounds smart. After all, morons are very suspicious of anything that goes over their head.

GodGunsGuts

...unless of course you are a Temple of Darwin fanatic, in which case you wouldn’t pick up on it, because the crap would smell the same as your normal surroundings.

GodGunsGuts

It would appear that you are the latest FReeper to make the ultimate sacrifice to the Bearded Buddha of Naturalism. You know, it's not too late to reclaim your brain.

GodGunsGuts

I'll be happy to keep going, if you'd like.

150 posted on 10/29/2009 12:07:30 PM PDT by Rafterman ("If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting." -- Curtis LeMay)
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To: Ira_Louvin; All

You keep making assertion and asking us to prove them not true.

When we make assertions you ask us to prove them. I did! With two published scientific papers and you said they were nothing more that opinions in quotes.

Why do you get to make assertion that we have to prove wrong but when we make assertions we have to prove them right.

Does anyone else see a problem with this?


151 posted on 10/29/2009 12:10:12 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: Ira_Louvin; BrandtMichaels

“I am asking that you simply provide empirical evidence to support your assertions”

“To: BrandtMichaels
What empirical evidence do you have to show otherwise?
133 posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:52:35 PM by Ira_Louvin”

And you are asking us to prove your assertions to be incorrect.


152 posted on 10/29/2009 12:11:55 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: Ira_Louvin; christianhomeschoolmommaof3; ClearCase_guy; BrandtMichaels; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; ...

From the Post-Gazette. Is that scientifically peer reviewed?

Nevertheless, from the article.....

“could be”, “apparently”, “We were very puzzled about how to interpret”, “suggests that”, “It could be”, “It could be”, “There’s no real way to know”, “This suggests”, “It could be”, “it appears”

And the best comment from the article..... “Paleontologists always used to search for the common ancestor of all mammals, Wyss said, but it has become obvious that there’s no way of proving what animal might be that ancestor. So now the tendency is to identify creatures such as Hadrocodium as close relatives, he said, and not worry about whether it is a direct ancestor.”


153 posted on 10/29/2009 12:13:23 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: BlueDragon
It seems the reason Stalin was “displeased” with Muller was that Lysenko was in vogue and promising advances in agriculture. But Muller was able to rehabilitate himself and return to the Soviet Union for a time.

Everyone should read Muller's letter to Stalin with it's nutty plans.

Hello Ira! Can you hear me now?

154 posted on 10/29/2009 12:13:34 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

Everyone but the evos.


155 posted on 10/29/2009 12:15:02 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; Ira_Louvin

LOL! I can see why the links to published paper are only considered opinion. I will have to find something with this level of scientific objectiveness next time!


156 posted on 10/29/2009 12:15:56 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: metmom; Ira_Louvin

LOL! I can see why the links to published paper are only considered opinion. I will have to find something with this level of scientific objectiveness next time!


157 posted on 10/29/2009 12:16:10 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I bet the “majority of Americans” have no clue what evolution is.


158 posted on 10/29/2009 12:17:18 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with vegetarian T. rex within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: ElectricStrawberry; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; tpanther; valkyry1; Mr. Silverback; Gordon Greene; ...
I bet the “majority of Americans” have no clue what evolution is.

Then it's kind of a massive fail on the part of the evos despite their monopoly on the public indoctrination centers which pass for schools these days.

159 posted on 10/29/2009 12:27:36 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
If only they had more “resources” for education! So it's not rejection, it's ignorance and more effort is needed.

I wonder if Eugenie Scott would take the job of Minister of Education? Young Master Dawkins could write the curriculum.

160 posted on 10/29/2009 12:36:25 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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