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Judge Carter Ruling on MTD
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Posted on 10/29/2009 10:19:10 AM PDT by Elderberry

Judge Carter Ruling on MTD


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: article2section1; birthcertificate; birthers; carter; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama; obamaisfafraud; obamathugs; orly; orlytaitz; romney4obama; romneyantigop; romneybotshere; romneybotsvsbirthers
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1 posted on 10/29/2009 10:19:10 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

Oh the suspence! You could cut it with a baseball bat!


2 posted on 10/29/2009 10:20:20 AM PDT by Grunthor (Thank YOU George Bush, for giving us the GOP of today!)
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To: Elderberry

Motion to dismiss is granted.


3 posted on 10/29/2009 10:21:36 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Elderberry

Not good. Defendant’s motion to dismiss is granted.


4 posted on 10/29/2009 10:22:20 AM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: Elderberry

Thug nation.


5 posted on 10/29/2009 10:22:24 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Elderberry

If it’s Judge Crater this could really be a big story.


6 posted on 10/29/2009 10:22:44 AM PDT by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: rhombus

LOL! Did Carter say mean things about Orly as well?


7 posted on 10/29/2009 10:23:06 AM PDT by Grunthor (Thank YOU George Bush, for giving us the GOP of today!)
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To: LucyT; null and void

PING


8 posted on 10/29/2009 10:24:34 AM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: Grunthor

Who knows... I didn’t read it, just slid down to the bottom to read the conclusion because no one yet said what it was on the thread.


9 posted on 10/29/2009 10:25:20 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Elderberry

It says...Therefore for the reason stated above, Defendant’s
Motion to Dismiss is GRANTED, IT IS SO ORDERED.

DATED October 29, 2009


10 posted on 10/29/2009 10:25:26 AM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: stockpirate

Now the appeal.


11 posted on 10/29/2009 10:25:28 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Enterprise

Take a writ.


12 posted on 10/29/2009 10:25:33 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: Grunthor; LucyT; null and void

What do you find so funny about this? I think it’s a damn shame personally.

[Ping to Lucy and NaV]


13 posted on 10/29/2009 10:25:53 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Elderberry
I’m no lawyer, but it looks like the Judge has been had. He granted the motion to dismiss the suit against zer0. He stated that over 69 million people wanted the usurper and he wouldn’t overthrow him. In saying so, he is also saying that The Constitution is no longer in effect.
14 posted on 10/29/2009 10:25:56 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO - When 0bama Fails, Freedom Prevails!)
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To: rhombus

NO surprise.


15 posted on 10/29/2009 10:25:59 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Genoa

Second verse, same as the first.


16 posted on 10/29/2009 10:26:16 AM PDT by LaybackLenny (Sarah Palin can see the left's heads explode from her house!)
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To: Grunthor

Plaintiffs have encouraged the Court to ignore these mandates of the Constitution; to
disregard the limits on its power put in place by the Constitution; and to effectively overthrow a
sitting president who was popularly elected by “We the People”–over sixty-nine million of the
people. Plaintiffs have attacked the judiciary, including every prior court that has dismissed
their claim, as unpatriotic and even treasonous for refusing to grant their requests and for
adhering to the terms of the Constitution which set forth its jurisdiction. Respecting the
constitutional role and jurisdiction of this Court is not unpatriotic. Quite the contrary, this Court
considers commitment to that constitutional role to be the ultimate reflection of patriotism.
Therefore, for the reasons stated above, Defendants’ Motion to Dismiss is GRANTED.


17 posted on 10/29/2009 10:26:50 AM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

If he stated that the voters trump the Constitution (in effect), then he’s not the upright jurist everyone was saying. Mob rule.


18 posted on 10/29/2009 10:28:02 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Noooo! This can’t be. I was told this judge was untouchable./s


19 posted on 10/29/2009 10:28:03 AM PDT by LaybackLenny (Sarah Palin can see the left's heads explode from her house!)
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To: LibertyRocks

“What do you find so funny about this?”

That anyone expected a judge to rule with Orly Taitz on anything. That is quite funny.

“I think it’s a damn shame personally.”

As do I since I believe that it is very possible that Oba-Mao was not born in the U.S.....the damned shame is that Orly Taitz was the point person on this case. Can no competent lawyer be found?


20 posted on 10/29/2009 10:28:53 AM PDT by Grunthor (Thank YOU George Bush, for giving us the GOP of today!)
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To: Elderberry

“This Court will not interfere in internal military affairs nor be used as a tool by military officers to avoid deployment. The Court has a word for such a refusal to follow the orders of the President of the United States, but it will leave the issue to the military to resolve.”

Guess that’s the Marine in Judge Carter speaking.


21 posted on 10/29/2009 10:30:00 AM PDT by kukaniloko
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I think he’s saying that the Constitution does not allow the judicial branch to interfere . . . oh, forget . . . that’s an outdated conservative belief, anyway.


22 posted on 10/29/2009 10:30:10 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Grunthor

Ah, I get it now... Never mind.


23 posted on 10/29/2009 10:30:39 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Grunthor
Can no competent lawyer be found?

Oh one (or more) will be found...in Ft. Marcy Park.

24 posted on 10/29/2009 10:31:01 AM PDT by LaybackLenny (Sarah Palin can see the left's heads explode from her house!)
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To: Elderberry
Really is amazing..."We The People" have no standing when it comes to this issue...

If we have no standing....than how is one to overturn a perceived injustice?

I know I am greatly simplifying the issue....but....it really doesn't sit well with me....doesn't anyone need to show proof as to certification?

BTW...just because I ask this question does not mean I believe the President is not natural born....so please...no one GE their panties in a bunch....it's just a question....
25 posted on 10/29/2009 10:31:07 AM PDT by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: Grunthor

You might be laughing at Orly but do not forget the old adage he who laughs last laughs longest. And NO I was not expecting any other ruling. The decree regarding what would take place from Moses seat was long ago foretold.

And do I think this Orly is competent well I can only test the fruit.


26 posted on 10/29/2009 10:33:36 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: 1rudeboy

This boggles the mind. The Constitution doesn’t allow the judicial branch to interfere? Judicial review of laws based on unconstitutionality is well established. Why not judicial review of a presidential election if the candidate might not have been constitutionally qualified? This does not add up.


27 posted on 10/29/2009 10:34:09 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Genoa
That's not what he said. What he said was that the plaintiff was asking the court to overturn the election process. I believe that the plaintiff didn't have standing to begin with, only the candidates. Look, I don't like zero anymoe than you do, but there was ample opportunity to raise these issue with voters and then with the House. I do not want the courts involved with an election unless the parties have standing.
28 posted on 10/29/2009 10:34:12 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: MilspecRob
"Additionally, the Court has received several sworn affidavits that Taitz asked potential witnesses that she planned to call before this Court to perjure themselves. This Court is deeply concerned that Taitz may have suborned perjury through witnesses she intended to bring before this Court."

Ruh-roh. For Orly, this could be the most important paragraph in the ruling. Very ominous. For the lay people out there, it's never good when the court is "deeply concerned" that an attorney of record may have suborned perjury. It makes me wonder if a criminal investigation isn't coming, or already underway.

29 posted on 10/29/2009 10:34:28 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: Genoa

The Courts have been very consistent on these matters, re Jones V Bush and Bush V Gore.


30 posted on 10/29/2009 10:36:34 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; Sibre Fan; Non-Sequitur

Orly Taitz ping.


31 posted on 10/29/2009 10:36:46 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; Sibre Fan; Non-Sequitur

Orly Taitz ping.


32 posted on 10/29/2009 10:36:53 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: PigRigger

This is no better example than that this country is screwed and broken beyond repair. The legal system is so undermined and the truth be damned.

The little people shall bow and continue year after year until they drop.


33 posted on 10/29/2009 10:37:37 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: Grunthor

next step, Quo Warranto..


34 posted on 10/29/2009 10:37:46 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: Perdogg

So it boils down to (1) standing, and (2) Carter’s desire for judicial restraint. Until the merits are addressed, somehow, somewhere ... nothing is really settled.


35 posted on 10/29/2009 10:38:33 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: PigRigger

We do have a say on this matter, it’s called an election. We had 10 months to raise all of these issues with the voters and did so poorly. Instead we spent half the year bitching and moaning about McCain.

McCain was not my fav but he is light years ahead of 0bama.


36 posted on 10/29/2009 10:38:39 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Elderberry

CERTIFICATE-GATE

Kenya Sunday Standard headline — “Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate”

The Nigerian Observer — “Americans will today go to the polls to elect their next President with Democratic Party candidate, Senator Barack Obama largely favoured to win. The Kenyan-born Senator will…”

USAfrica — “Kenyan-born OBAMA makes history…wins presidential nomination of U. S. Democratic party; eyes on White House…”

AllAfrica.com — ” Little wonder then why Kenyan-born Barack Obama, America’s first Black President…”

GraphicGhana.com — “For Ghana, Obama’s visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American President on this
presidential visit to the continent of his birth.” The same article, with the same quote, appeared in ModernGhana.com.

The Ghana Times — “So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the African-American Senator from Illinois state. A Congressional Quarterly
(CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the Kenyan born American ahead of his rivel, John McCain.”

From the comment section:
(”AmericanDaughter“) NPR.org — “…She also describes the stories that have been exciting, including the U.S. presidential race of Kenyan-born Sen. Barack Obama.”

(”AmericanDaughter“) AllAfrica.com — “Kampala — Ugandans have formed a group to mobilise support for Kenyan born-senator, Barack Obama for the US presidency.” "


“Kenyan Historian: It's Odd that Kenyan Luo Tribe Member (Obama) Elected President in US Before Kenya (Audio)
We already knew that Barack Obama's brother Malik was a Luo activist and a militant Muslim
who argued that the black man must "liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture."



“Article in Nairobi Paper June 2004 - Barack born in Africa
An ongoing poll by AOL News currently shows that 58% of Americans have doubts
about Obama’s citizenship. The poll was started on July 28 and continues — you can go
here to vote. And lest you think that this survey is being conducted in a very anti-Obama
venue, the title of the article is Birthers, Beer and Stuck on ‘Stupidly’ — it is an
environment contemptuous of skeptics. So we can conclude that the results of their poll
are not what they were hoping for.

A scant five years ago, Barack Obama was a little known Illinois state politician, aspiring
to move up to the United States Senate. Undoubtedly, the Marxist handlers behind this
Manchurian candidate had long range plans to capture the US presidency since he was
groomed as a youth by Frank Marshall Davis. But the general public and the press were
not privy to this information.

At that time, there would have been no reason to fabricate a story about Obama’s birth
that would disqualify him for the highest US office. This would be especially true for an
African paper that was simply proud of their native son. So it is reasonable to take the
press clippings of the day at face value. The following item has been on the web all
along, but apparently did not get much attention. It is a June 2004 article from the online
version of the East African Standard, an English-language paper published in Nairobi,
Kenya, titled Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate.“


Br> “US Presidential Polls:Obama, McCain slug it out today
WASHINGTON – Americans will today go to the polls to elect their next President with
Democratic Party candidate, Senator Barack Obama largely favoured to win.
The Kenyan-born Senator will, however, face a stiff competition from his Republican
counterpart, John McCain who has taken the presidential battle to the finishing line with
vigorous campaign strategies.”


“Americans Decide Today - go Obama (this site hasn't been scrubbed yet)
So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the African-American Senator from Illinois State .
A Congressional Quarterly (CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the Kenyan born American ahead of his rival, Senator McCain.”


“D.C. Tech Official Is Accused of Bribery(Birth Certificate Forgery)
A D.C. government official and a business executive were arrested yesterday on bribery
charges involving city technology contracts that included "ghost" workers and
kickbacks, federal authorities said. Until recently, the technology office was headed
by Vivek Kundra, who has taken a job as President Obama's chief information officer.
A White House official confirmed last night that Kundra has taken a leave of absence.
“Yusuf Acar, 40, who has worked in the technology office since 2004, was charged with
bribery, conspiracy, money laundering and conflict of interest.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Hibarger told a federal judge that Acar is a flight risk because agents
seized $70,000 in cash in his house and because in recorded conversations, he boasted that he could easily flee to his native Turkey.
Acar also told the informant that he could use
computers to create fake D.C. birth certificates
, Hibarger said. “


"Security Breach May Lead To Obama Natural Born Status
A series of 2008 security breaches at the US State Department may indicate that someone knows Barack Obama’s true status as a natural born citizen - and is waiting for the right time to reveal it. The breaches, which occurred on January 9, February 21 and March 14 of 2008, were done by two “low level” contractors and another in a mid-level position with no management role.
... An investigation of the incidents revealed that all three major presidential candidates - Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain - had their passport files compromised.
... News of the security breaches prompted a statement from then-Senator Joseph Biden, who had not yet been chosen as Obama’s running mate. Biden, who was chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, had oversight of the Foreign Service and the passport office.

“I am deeply troubled that State Department contract employees sought access to Sen. Barack Obama’s passport files,” the statement from Biden read. “Firing or disciplining those responsible is an important first step. But we need to understand why these employees had access to this information in the first place, why they sought the information, and why it took over two months for this matter to come to light. I urge the Secretary of State to promptly refer this matter to the State Department Inspector General for investigation.”
... On April 5, 2008, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Passport Services Ann Barrett resigned from her post after a credit card scheme using US passport date was uncovered by the security probe. State Department Spokesman Tom Casey told The Washington Times that 24-year-old Lieutenant Quarles Harris Jr. told federal authorities he obtained “passport information from a co-conspirator who works for the U.S. Department of State.”

From The Washington Times report:
The investigation began after Metropolitan Police on March 25 pulled over Mr. Harris in Southeast on suspicion that the windows of his vehicle were tinted too darkly.
After searching Mr. Harris and his vehicle, police found marijuana and 21 credit cards that were not issued in his name or the name of a female passenger with him. Police also found eight printouts of State Department passport applications, and four of the names on the applications matched four of the credit cards.
Upon questioning by agents from the U.S. Secret Service, U.S. Postal Service and State Department, Mr. Harris “admitted he obtained the passport information” from a State Department employee, court documents say.

Mr. Harris also said the fraud ring submitted credit-card applications using the names and “identifying information” of the persons listed on the passport applications, and that a postal service employee then would intercept the cards before they were delivered to the appropriate residences.
Then, on April 17, 2008, Lt. Harris was found fatally shot dead slumped over the steering wheel of his car in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast DC."


Key Witness in Presidential Passport Tampering Case Murdered in 2008, No Arrests
On April 8, 2008, Obama confessed to having taken a trip to Pakistan in 1981. Here is what Obama said - Jake Tapper was there:
"So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa --knowing the leaders is not important -- what I know is the people...I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college -- I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."
... Much speculation has been made about what national passport Obama used when he traveled to Pakistan in 1981.
So Obama confessed to this trip two weeks after his passport was tampered with.


.... A key witness in a federal probe into passport information stolen from the State Department was fatally shot in front of a District church, the Metropolitan Police Department said yesterday. Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast, said Cmdr. Michael Anzallo, head of the department's Criminal Investigations Division.
Cmdr. Anzallo said a police officer was patrolling the neighborhood when gunshots were heard, then Lt. Harris was found dead inside the vehicle, which investigators would describe only as a blue car."


"Mysterious Dead Person Connected To 2008 Elections
The Washington Times reported April 5 that contractors for the State Department had improperly accessed passport information
for presidential candidates Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain, which resulted in a series of firings that reached into the agency's top ranks."



37 posted on 10/29/2009 10:39:08 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Just mythoughts

The decree regarding what would take place from Moses seat was long ago foretold.

And do I think this Orly is competent well I can only test the fruit.


I understood some of what you posted. The above quote is not it.


38 posted on 10/29/2009 10:39:11 AM PDT by Grunthor (Thank YOU George Bush, for giving us the GOP of today!)
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To: Perdogg
That's not what he said. What he said was that the plaintiff was asking the court to overturn the election process. I believe that the plaintiff didn't have standing to begin with, only the candidates. Look, I don't like zero anymoe than you do, but there was ample opportunity to raise these issue with voters and then with the House. I do not want the courts involved with an election unless the parties have standing

WHY is the requirement place upon anyone else but the candidate? He (BamaKennedy) did not get where he is all by himself. And whatever he is hiding, what I have NO clue it is reasonable that he LIED when he took the oath of office. However, none of these that take that oath have any intentions in upholding said oath. This judge NOTWITHSTANDING he made his call so now he can live with his decision.

39 posted on 10/29/2009 10:40:07 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: The Sons of Liberty

“I’m no lawyer, but it looks like the Judge has been had. He granted the motion to dismiss the suit against zer0. He stated that over 69 million people wanted the usurper and he wouldn’t overthrow him. In saying so, he is also saying that The Constitution is no longer in effect.”

You are exactly right. However, it is now out of Carter’s court, who I believe would have thrown roadblocks up in front of her every step of the way, and now can go to a higher court.


40 posted on 10/29/2009 10:40:09 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: stockpirate; rocco55; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; Fred Nerks; null and void; george76; PhilDragoo; ...
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41 posted on 10/29/2009 10:40:28 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: Perdogg

Doesn’t Alan Keyes have standing because Obama should not have been allowed to run for the Senate? It’s not just the BC. What passport did he travel on? Did he attend college as a foreign student?


42 posted on 10/29/2009 10:40:37 AM PDT by bukkdems (When we end our dependence on oil, what will we do without plastic?)
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To: Grunthor
LOL! Did Carter say mean things about Orly as well?

Well, he did use the phrase "improper and unethical" (to describe her conduct in asking her supporters to call the Judge).

There may be more, I haven't read the whole opinion yet.

43 posted on 10/29/2009 10:40:38 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: MilspecRob

Bet you had an orgasm posting that, didn’t ya!


44 posted on 10/29/2009 10:40:46 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Oath keepers + The NRA = FReeRepublic (.com baby))
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To: 1rudeboy

I believe the new theory is “No controlling legal authority”, but that is only for Republicians.


45 posted on 10/29/2009 10:42:15 AM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: Just mythoughts
WHY is the requirement place upon anyone else but the candidate?

For obvious reasons. We don't want sore losers clogging up the courts with lawsuits when they don't get the results they want.
46 posted on 10/29/2009 10:42:22 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Grunthor
The decree regarding what would take place from Moses seat was long ago foretold. And do I think this Orly is competent well I can only test the fruit.

That is ok you will discover in due time who took Moses seat. He was the first lawgiver and Christ said that some would replace him with their own version of the law.

47 posted on 10/29/2009 10:42:39 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: The Sons of Liberty

mob rule (majority vote) trumps the Constitution

damn shame, it was a good run while we lasted


48 posted on 10/29/2009 10:42:42 AM PDT by silverleaf (Ours is the only country on earth with a ventriloquist dummy for President)
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To: Elderberry

So what happens if Superbozo runs for a second term? Will we get to prevent him from taking office then since we seem to have no standing now? Or will he get to run purely and merely because he completed a first term, albeit fraudulently in the minds of many people?


49 posted on 10/29/2009 10:43:58 AM PDT by bergmeid
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To: bukkdems
I think Alam Keyes has standing, but the burden is on Alan to prove that he was adversely affected.
50 posted on 10/29/2009 10:44:06 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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