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Vatican Condemns Hallowe'en As Anti-Christian
Telegraph(UK) ^ | October 30th 2009

Posted on 10/30/2009 11:39:37 AM PDT by Steelfish

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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
What is with this Pope?

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Funny hats and red shoes ... what's not fun about this Pope? Remember he is a Roman Catholic and it would be odd at best if he believed in Halloween as anything other than what it represents ... a huge scary/frightening evil-based [cavity-inducing] distraction/prelude to All Saints Day!


101 posted on 10/30/2009 5:53:31 PM PDT by mlizzy ("It is impossible to walk rapidly and be unhappy" --Mother Teresa of Calcutta.)
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To: mware
Then there was Achmid.

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102 posted on 10/30/2009 5:54:58 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Steelfish
"pitiless [Satanic] sects without scruples".

As opposed to the satanic sects with scruples?

103 posted on 10/30/2009 5:59:49 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: Steelfish


"It is impossible to carve three hundred pumpkins and be unhappy" (was THAT what Mother Teresa of Calcutta said?)
104 posted on 10/30/2009 6:08:12 PM PDT by mlizzy ("It is impossible to walk rapidly and be unhappy" --Mother Teresa of Calcutta.)
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To: Theophilus

What’s that verse have to do with Halloween?


105 posted on 10/31/2009 11:54:56 AM PDT by GunRunner
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To: ichabod1
I always like All Saints because it is like the kickoff day for the Church Season. Halloween, bah. Humbug.

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We have a gazillion trick or treaters today. My 20-something sons, who do not embrace my anti-stance on Halloween (nor do they go to Mass anymore or consider the pope's views on much of anything), are outside dolling out the candy to the little angels, pirates, and hookers.

I love All Saints Day too. Here's a nice post: No Mistaking a Saint
106 posted on 10/31/2009 2:51:32 PM PDT by mlizzy ("It is impossible to walk rapidly and be unhappy" --Mother Teresa of Calcutta.)
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To: mlizzy

If I had kids, maybe I’d be into it - I’d have to be. I don’t think I’d make them miss out. I think I’d just make sure we went to Mass on All Saints Day every year, just to make sure that they knew that halloween is like Christmas eve, the night before the big day, not the main event itself. Is that possible?

For that matter, this is a problem I have with Catholic/Christian feast days. There’s no feasting! You have to go to church. It’s sort of a chore, especially on Holy Days of Obligation where you have to work around work.

There should be feasting! Even if its just fried chicken from Kroger or something, people should eat, drink, have a topical invocation. Do something to BUILD interest in the feast day, not detract from it.


107 posted on 10/31/2009 7:02:41 PM PDT by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: randomhero97

Well, in this case, the pagans have pretty much hi-jacked a Christian feast Day.
It is the day before All Saints Day, and the very name means “All Hallows Eve.” All hallows Day being the English name for All Saints Day. November 2 is called “All Souls Day.” In the Mexican community they celebrate the Days of the Dead, when families go out and decorate family tombstones. They use Halloween type stuff for the observance. The irony about the build up of Halloween is that
American society is so adverse to talking about the reality of death. Families that will dress up kids in skeleton suits will refuse to take the same kinds to the funerals of relatives. Don’t let them know that death is NOT the virtual reality they see in the movies.


108 posted on 11/01/2009 9:14:43 PM PST by RobbyS (Chirho.)
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To: Steelfish

headline and content don’t agree. Some Italian bishops said this or that? Big deal. I do agree that he violence and murderous costumes are of no appeal to me as a parent, but we take our kiddos out early and all you see are other litle kids in cute costumes. Le the grown-ups do whatever weirdness they want - as for their occult/violent costumes (and their are lots), it is probably the only day of the year they get out of their basements and out from behind their computer monitors. They might get a free drink or two at some party, but they still carry their anti-phermones with themselves like an overstuffed suitcase.

As for teens? I dunno. Same tempations they always face, but with lots more opportunities - like a Mardi Gras for the non-Catholics, if they want one and their parents aren’t looking. But that’s the parents’ job - to look.


109 posted on 11/02/2009 3:51:51 AM PST by Puddleglum ("due to the record harvest, rationing will continue as usual")
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To: mware

Just checked back in today. Hey, DUDE! Who’s the dude with the shades — COO-EL. I had no idea Herbie Hancock was a Catholic. ;-) Can he play “Watermelon Man”?


110 posted on 11/02/2009 10:58:34 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: GunRunner
What’s that verse have to do with Halloween?

What does Halloween have to do with that verse?
What does Halloween have to do with the Puritans?

Philippians 4:8
Finally, brethren,
whatsoever things are true,
whatsoever things are honest,
whatsoever things are just,
whatsoever things are pure,
whatsoever things are lovely,
whatsoever things are of good report;
if there be any virtue,
and if there be any praise,
think on these things...

111 posted on 11/04/2009 6:43:27 AM PST by Theophilus (Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?)
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To: twigs

Turn the front door lights off and hide under the bed. Hell is paved with Snickers, Kit-Kats and Mild Duds.


112 posted on 11/04/2009 7:02:55 AM PST by ExiledChicagoan (I see a red door and I want it painted black. But that's just me.)
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To: livius

“But ever since Halloween got taken over by adults, particularly gays, it’s gotten worse and worse.”

Wow, one of the dumbest things I’ve seen here in awhile.

Next you’ll tell us that witches can’t have babies since their husbands have crystal balls and Halloweenies.


113 posted on 11/04/2009 7:08:55 AM PST by ExiledChicagoan (I see a red door and I want it painted black. But that's just me.)
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To: Steelfish
They didn't seem to mind when All Souls Day in Mexico became all about children dressing up as monsters and adults having parties a la Halloween in the US.

BTW: I'm curious, as it seem as though the Vatican is fighting wars of attrition everywhere in Europe and the Americas: is there ANYWHERE the Catholic Church is actually GAINING influence? I want honest answers here, not bigotry/insults, etc.

114 posted on 11/04/2009 7:12:46 AM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: livius
This children's holiday was appropriated by adults many decades ago, and commercialized way beyond belief - but ADULTS hold the pocketbooks and they are buying all those Made-In-China decorations & costumes.

Long ago, it used to be that kids would MAKE their own costume for Halloween, using their own clothes closet and their imagination.

Parents would buy candy during the last week of October --- nowadays, the stores start displaying all that Soon-To-Be-Landfill-Contents during late August, well before the harvest or the start of school.

I thought it was ridiculous to see all the ADULTS on TV who were so very into their costumes, it was really pathetic on the morning shows - which I normally don't watch, but I was so appalled to see all these adult-aged humans scampering around like 5 & 6 year olds, that I kept channel surfing to observe.

A six foot tall Peter Pan has stolen Halloween. When Halloween was solely a kid's ONE-NIGHT holiday and not some 2-month economic extravaganza for the sale of junk, it was innocent & fun.

115 posted on 11/04/2009 7:25:37 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Clemenza

Yes- in West Africa and India


116 posted on 11/04/2009 7:59:30 AM PST by Steelfish
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