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And bam is a muslim. He is not being inconsistent with his muslim background.

I disagree. It seems to me one can be a Manchurian Marxist or one can be a Manchurian Muslim but it is almost impossible to be both unless you really are schizophrenic. In fact it is almost impossible to be a Manchurian Muslim because the dictates of the faith require open expression. It is philosophically antagonistic to entertain the Marxist view of the world and accommodate Islam.

Although both are thoroughly authoritarian, Marxists are eternally in Mortal combat with theists. Muslims are eternally in mortal combat with unbelievers. They proceeds from different starting positions and they proceeds toward different goals. Neither their origins nor their goals are compatible.

I suppose it is possible for Obama to be both a Manchurian Marxist and a Manchurian Muslim but I think it highly unlikely. Since the evidence shows that he is a Marxist, I think his accommodation to Islam is superficial and traditional. I think that explains his bowing to the Prince of Arabia, for example.

To the degree that Islam poses a threat to Marxism, Obama must make a choice and I believe he will choose the latter. If he can dither and procrastinate making an unpalatable choice between the two, especially when other factors like poll numbers and political considerations are at play, I have no doubt that he will do so.

But I think it is an absolute mistake to believe that Obama is afraid to wage war. I accept that he is reluctant to wage war to further the national interests of the United States but I believe he will fight with cold-blooded determination to maintain his own power and to advance his Marxist worldview.

Strange as it sounds and as infuriating as many on this thread will find this observation, Obama is an idealist. But he is also an atheist in the truest sense. He is a God Player who will tolerate no threat to his freedom of action. One can be a narcissist and a believer but one must so distort the principles of a major religion like Islam that the contortions become bizarre. It is much cleaner to believe that Obama is a pure narcissist who has plugged in Marxism as a guiding philosophy and gives him the self-confidence his narcissism demands because it explains everything. Islam can do that as well but it requires submission.

“It seems to me one can be a Manchurian Marxist or one can be a Manchurian Muslim but it is almost impossible to be both unless you really are schizophrenic.”

I bounce back and forth on the idea of Obama being an actual Muslim. His Marxism and traditional leftist hate of freedom are enough for me. However as I see it, self deception is a main support for both Marxism and Islam (especially radical Islam) And once the mind accepts untruth it can literally accept any formulation ‘necessary’ to the end at hand.

This effect, by the way, is the great danger of PC.

Lying has a very “honorable” place in Islam. I found this in “Understanding Dishonesty and Deceit in Islam”:

Kithman: Hiding the Truth

Kithman is a command to deliberately conceal one’s beliefs. It is a particular form of lying primarily practiced by the minority Shia’ Muslims. This doctrine is articulated by Imam Jafar Sadiq, the sixth Imam of Shia’ Islam:

One, who exposes something from our religion is like one who intentionally kills us.

You belong to a religion that whosoever conceals it, Allah will honor him and whosoever reveals it, Allah will disgrace him.

So Shia’ Muslims are commanded to purposefully hide what they truly believe in order to mislead outsiders as to the true nature of their religion.

The original is at http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/ch16_understanding_dishonesty.htm. It comes from a site called “Answering Islam” at http://www.answering-islam.org/. I’ve heard before that it’s considered perfectly fine for Muslims to lie openly to non-Muslims, but this is the first analysis I’ve seen that extends that lying to hiding your religious affiliation if necessary.

Islam reminds me of a city like Quebec, which was once flourishing and then suddenly bypassed by history for a long,long time. In the case of Quebec, it leaves you with a beautiful city caught in the past. In the case of Islam, it leaves you with 7th-century barbarians living in the 21st century.

You write what I can't bring words to express.

You are absolutely correct that 0bama is capable of waging war.

It's just that he does not see the Muslims in Afghanistan or Iraq as his enemies.

He sees US, traditional "clingers to guns and religion" of the Conservative Right, as those who he wishes to take down.

This man is a walking nightmare, far more unbalanced than any other man who has held that office.

He just covers it up with "cool."