Posted on 10/31/2009 1:10:01 PM PDT by GVnana
Boener’s doing a good job; everyone stop picking at him.
My only question is now that they’ve put out their response, is it in the form of a bill to consider in committee or just a response?
A response is not quite useless, but can’t be submitted. If it is talked about consistently tomorrow, that would be ideal, but still in needs to exist materially to have some legs.
They keep trying to come with new taxes and fees while the solution is spiting in their face, very accurately I might add. ‘’Resume off shore drilling etc. and pledge the gov’t royalties to healthcare. Same with mining, grazing on fed land etc.’’ Also the auctioing of radio freq. bandwiths. We could all have a 3 Cadilac health ins. policy, with only a small fee etc. create funds when needed to supplement the income from royalties etc.
Number two: allow individuals, small businesses, and trade associations to pool together and acquire health insurance at lower prices, the same way large corporations and labor unions do today;
Number three: give states the tools to create their own innovative reforms that lower health care costs; and
Number four: end junk lawsuits that contribute to higher health care costs by increasing the number of tests and procedures that physicians sometimes order not because they think it's good medicine, but because they are afraid of being sued.
[OR - because medicare now approves and will pay for them.]
IOW -- GET THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF HEALTHCARE!!!
#1: Who stopped insurance companies from selling their product across state lines?
#2: Who stopped the ability to pool and buy insurance at better rates?
#3: There is NO reason for the feds to give the states anything. Simply get out of their way and let them take care of their own.
#4: Tort reform! Now where have I heard that before?
Who encouraged and allowed the despicable lawyers to run amuck in the first place?
Unconstitutional.
No doubt the White House and Democrats in Congress will continue to insist that Republicans “have no plan.” But Boehner’s four proposals are contained in fleshed-out legislative form in several GOP reform bills. They really exist. You can check them out.
You should have added this from the Constitution:
14th Amendment Last part of Section 1 :
“...No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” (Quote is from Wiki not normally used but useful in this discussion)Please note it says “...nor shall any State deprive any person,” not citizen.
Might as well bury the Constitution the way Congress has been operating these many years.
I’d add that the mandates state’s make are one of the prime reasons costs are so high; I mean why does a single man like me have coverage for prenatal care!? One size doesn’t fit all.
If that’s addressed, I think it would resolve much of the problems with cost...obviously the other things listed are helpful, too.
I’m glad he spoke up and it was brief and to the point.
Rep. Bachmann has asked that we all meet with our congressional rep this Thursday at High Noon - in person. I feel the need for a road trip. anyone else?
Hi Dio,
As always, wonderful post.
Given the standard profit margins in the industry, this will do little to reduce costs, but it will lead to one hell of a merger and acquisition flurry. All that would do is Federalize the regulation of health care, which would eventually be little different than socializing it in the first place. It would lead to an oligopoly market capable of claiming "higher margins."
So, do you want "too big to fail" in health care? I thought not.
Uh, no thanks Dr. Boner. Stick with beating up the trial lawyers and pricing based upon behavior.
There has been no such problem in the car insurance industry caused by allowing competition across state lines. There has been no "oligarch's" market produced. What has been produced is a fiercely competitive market that has significantly driven down costs.
Do you have any data to back up your opinion that what applies to car insurance will not apply to health insurance?
It's what has happened in every other federally regulated industry over 100 years since Roosevelt. As to sources, I am one.
There has been no such problem in the car insurance industry caused by allowing competition across state lines.
I take it you are not privy to the consequences of DOT and EPA regulations of the car and truck industry. They used it for years to keep out foreign competition until that protected industry collapsed.
Do you have any data to back up your opinion that what applies to car insurance will not apply to health insurance?
It is easy for any major holding company to install subsidiaries inside any state, which allows federalism to operate where the rules respect differences in local standards. So, if you think centralizing regulation is such a great idea, you must love the UN and the WTO, because that's the main reason they're there in the first place.
I gave you proof of how that is claim is not valid considering what is happening in the car insurance industry. Real world example while you provide not facts but instead go into a rant about mythical conspiracies at DOT and EPA
You then started ranting that I must love central authority in a transparent attempt to project the base for your argument onto me.
I am the one advocating breaking down the central authority and allowing the market to operate, you are the one demanding that there be no challenge to the current failed Government regulatory regime.
Oh really? You just said that to the first holder of a US patent on a free-market environmental management business method as endorsed by that well known conservative, Senator Malocolm Wallop.
If you had gone to that site you would know that. So, I'm calling you a liar and a demagogue, unworthy of my time.
Anything deemed unhealthful will bump you from the list when it comes to receiving healthcare.”
Anyone care to tie those “discount cards” you get at your grocery store with the Government being able to track your food choices?
Seems like a very small step to me.
I pay cash alot for my groceries, and the grocery store does not have my name or phone number on file. I asked for the card, but refused to give them the personal data. They gave me the card and didn’t get my data. NOw, I just have to use cash for my purchases. I get the discounts, and they have no tracks on me.
Were Americans, we fought worse than a little boy from Chicago.”
“from Chicago”
No- from Kenya.
Agreed, but he was raised Chicago style.
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