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To: Waryone
Not another RINO and his demographics speech. We are conservatives because we believe there is such thing a right and wrong.

I agree there is such a thing as right and wrong, and if you look through my positions, we probably agree on 99.99% of things so you cannot in good faith call me a RINO.

What I'm trying to say is that no one has addressed a way to "fix" the demographic problem. It does exist (if it didn't, the family wouldn't be as broken as it is now because of the 1960's and the influence that had on subsequent generations).

I'm trying to say that I think we ignore it at our own peril but I don't know how to fix it. You say we can turn it around (great! I hope so) but I'm talking about specific, tangible things that will cause it to turn around. Are you saying Christians need to go into the streets and start preaching again? Are you saying we need to launch legal fights? Do we need to buy television networks?

What, in other words, do we do? Everyone seems to think that to recognize there is a problem is to accept it. That's not true. As conservatives, we've got to come up with a game plan for addressing it. I want to know your ideas for how to accomplish that.

57 posted on 11/02/2009 9:50:39 AM PST by WallStreetCapitalist
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To: WallStreetCapitalist

I apologize for being so cynical before but we have had so many ‘I’m a conservative just like you but we have to get away from a) being against gay marriage or b)social conservatism entirely,’ it is as though some anti conservative seminar had finished and all the lib trolls came here to try out what they had learned.

Each and every one of them sound exactly the same and they have the exact same flaw. They want to abandon long held proven conservative beliefs because they can’t win debates with kids who feel instead of think because they have never been taught to reason logically. They believe in their feelings and feel things should be a certain way whether it makes sense or not. Being just as unreasoning and illogical, these people agree with the kids and “feel” we should all abandon God and our beliefs because we can’t win an argument with the kids any way.

Not one of the “so called” conservatives can honestly explain why any form of conservatism works better than liberalism. It is just a side for them to choose to be on. They act as though liberal ideas are equal in validity to conservative ideas when nothing could be further from the truth.

Conservatism is better because conservatism works. Conservatism works because it is an extension of the laws laid down from the beginning. God created this earth and established the laws governing it. When we decide to turn our backs on God’s laws it is like someone turning their back on the law of gravity. They can shout and scream and say it’s not true all they want. But that does not invalidate gravity. You walk off the top of the Empire State Building and you are going to fall. You keep thumbing your nose at God and you can expect something will happen sooner or later.

Most of these poor children today have no real understanding of what or why they should do as they are told. They have grown up thinking their parents make rules just to control them to become adults who think laws are written to control them and that God is just trying to control them and have His way. They don’t realize that what they feel does not matter, the rules have been established from the beginning in a way that He will have His way no matter what they believe. Just as our parents warn us not to touch the hot stove or a hot iron or not to cross a busy street, God is protecting us with His laws. He’s not trying to control us. The free will He gives us to choose is proof of that. But, we violate those laws at our own peril.

We need more Christians out there who do understand the Bible to actually teach people how it relates to them personally on an everyday basis. We need to stop running from battles we have difficulty winning and stand for what God tells us is right. Hanging out on street corners yelling is now a cliche, so I doubt it would have much effect, but having knowledgeable Christians speaking to people they know would be a tremendous help.

My tag line, II Chronicles 7:14, contains our greatest hope for success. If we do as the Bible says and make a stand for the Lord, we are honoring God and He will make sure that we accomplish His will. When we decide that we should give in to the evils of the world, we look no different from Sodom and we will suffer the consequences.

Here is my suggestion to you. Sit down and educate yourself first, walk in God’s ways and stand for God’s laws. When you can explain to others why gay marriage is not the way to go, such that you aren’t running away ready to join the other side, you’ll have a start on the knowledge you need. Then you can start working on friends your age.

Rush Limbaugh, and others have mentioned it before, conservatives need true conservative leaders. People who understand the whys, why conservatism is better and can effectively explain it. We are sorely lacking that today.


59 posted on 11/02/2009 12:30:34 PM PST by Waryone (II Chronicles 7:14)
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