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Conversation with my teenager ("Dad, Obama's health care reform sounds good to me")
American Thinker ^ | 11/2/2009 | Randall Hoven

Posted on 11/3/2009, 2:42:31 AM by SeekAndFind

"Dad, Obama's health care reform sounds good to me."

"Why so, son?"

"It'll pay for everybody's health care, like in Canada."

"Nope. In fact, President Obama says only his critics claim his plan is like Canada's. But his plan will force people to buy insurance. If you don't buy it, you'll be hounded by the IRS."

"What about those too poor to pay?"

"They are covered right now by Medicaid, if they bother to sign up for it. About one fourth of the uninsured are already eligible for a government plan."

"Obama's plan will get rid of the uninsured altogether."

"You think so? The Congressional Budget Office says there will be 25 to 36 million people still uninsured, depending on which proposal you're talking about. By the way, this is all a work in progress. Obama has no proposal in writing."

"Then what is this ‘public option' I hear about?"

"Something Obama wants in any reform package."

"Obama said it will give those profit-making insurance companies some competition."

"Those health insurance companies made little or no profit last year. Many took a loss. The public option would add just one competitor, and a lousy one at that. Obama himself compared it to the Post Office competing against FedEx and UPS."

"Sounds better than nothing, though."

"You could add hundreds of competitors simply by making it legal to buy health insurance across state lines. That would even save the government money."

"But Obama's plan will save money, right?"

"The two plans scored by the CBO so far would cost about a trillion dollars over ten years."

"But I heard the latest plan reduces the deficit."

"By accounting tricks. It will cost a trillion dollars or more; the question is who pays. That plan assumes $900B in new taxes and Medicare cuts. While the tax increases are added over 10 years, the cost of new coverage is added over only five, by delaying its start until 2015. Then they call $250B "doctor payments" instead of health reform. Voila, health care reform reduces the deficit."

"But at least the government can run it better than profit-making corporations."

"The government runs Medicare right now and it will go broke in seven years, one year before I'm eligible."

"You're a conservative, dad. You're biased."

"Prove me wrong, kid, and I won't stop paying for your cell phone -- or your health insurance."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obama; obamacare

1 posted on 11/3/2009, 2:42:31 AM by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Good find.
Kids are sometimes just so confused.


2 posted on 11/3/2009, 2:46:14 AM by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: SeekAndFind
This should be on the front page of every newspaper in America —in large bold letters. This was a "letter to the editor" on August 29th sent to a Jackson, MS newspaper.

Starner Jones, MD

Dear Sirs:

"During my last night's shift in the ER, I had the pleasure of evaluating a patient with a shiny new gold tooth, multiple elaborate tattoos, a very expensive brand of tennis shoes and a new cellular telephone equipped with her favorite R&B tune for a ringtone. Glancing over the chart, one could not help noticing her payer status: Medicaid. She smokes more than one costly pack of cigarettes every day and, somehow, still has money to buy beer.

And our Congress expects me to pay for this woman's health care? Our nation's health care crisis is not a shortage of quality hospitals, doctors or nurses. It is a crisis of culture — a culture in which it is perfectly acceptable to spend money on vices while refusing to take care of one's self or, heaven forbid, purchase health insurance. A culture that thinks "I can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me". Life is really not that hard. Most of us reap what we sow.

Don't you agree?

STARNER JONES, MD
Jackson , MS

3 posted on 11/3/2009, 2:48:33 AM by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SeekAndFind

If this kid is older than 16, he deserves the socialist Hell that will be his future. Sorry, tired of coddling libdolts past a certain age.


4 posted on 11/3/2009, 2:49:15 AM by piytar (This tag deleted by the Ministry of Truth. Love Big Brother. Or else!)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s a keeper.


5 posted on 11/3/2009, 2:51:04 AM by wastedyears (My 15 seconds of fame are on my profile.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I hope that when my kid is 16 she is screaming about how socialism almost destroyed this country back in 2009.

She's almost one year old now...

6 posted on 11/3/2009, 2:52:53 AM by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: SandRat
I do hospital transcription so I could tell you similar stories. Don't even get me started on the illegals....

Mrs. Prince of Space

7 posted on 11/3/2009, 2:56:48 AM by Prince of Space (Don't use a big word when a diminutive one will do....)
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To: pnh102
I hope that when my kid is 16 she is screaming about how socialism almost destroyed this country back in 2009. She's almost one year old now...

I had that hope, did something about it, and recently had the pleasure of hearing my 21 yo tell me how she out argued with a big lib who came into the store where she works, bought an candle, them complained that the tissue paper she was wrapping it in killed old growth forest.(he was probably trying to hit on her, because she is very pretty)

I don't think so, she said. They grow trees just for paper like this,in farms, and when they cut them down, they plant another one.

He said he didn't believe it.

She said well I do, because I understand economics ! If they were really cutting down the last trees, this paper would be so expensive we'd charge you for it. Instead, it's practically free! That means there's lots of it.

We homeschooled. And that was sweet.

8 posted on 11/3/2009, 3:04:28 AM by Red Boots
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To: Red Boots

Sweet!


9 posted on 11/3/2009, 3:10:09 AM by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. And NEVER GIVE UP!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"You're a conservative, dad. You're biased."

The proof is in the legal requirements the deprive everyone of freedom and the numbers that don't add up and are covered with lies. So where am I biased?

But if you can't refute my argument and yet you still refuse to change your mind - how are you not biased?

10 posted on 11/3/2009, 3:10:44 AM by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Red Boots
We homeschooled. And that was sweet.

Sweet story, thanks.

11 posted on 11/3/2009, 3:12:05 AM by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Red Boots
I don't think so, she said. They grow trees just for paper like this,in farms, and when they cut them down, they plant another one.

He said he didn't believe it.

She said well I do, because I understand economics ! If they were really cutting down the last trees, this paper would be so expensive we'd charge you for it. Instead, it's practically free! That means there's lots of it.

Funny you mention that. I remember almost doing a job interview with International Paper where one of their recruiters actually told me that they did indeed farm the trees that made the paper. They actually bred these genetically engineered "super trees" that make wood which is ideal for making paper. They do that because, as your daughter said, if they went hunting down trees in the woods, it would be very expensive to harvest them all to make paper.

12 posted on 11/3/2009, 3:14:49 AM by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lesson 1:

Hey kid, give me all your money so I can go get some drugs at the drug store.

Test 1: How do you like obama care now.

Incorrect answers require repeating Lesson 1.


13 posted on 11/3/2009, 3:23:42 AM by ALPAPilot
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Cagey; Darkwolf377; null and void

ping


14 posted on 11/3/2009, 3:31:32 AM by Shimmer1 (Froggie sez water nice and warm)
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To: SeekAndFind
Good find. Kids are sometimes just so confused.

This is how they are taught (indoctrinated ) in schools.

15 posted on 11/3/2009, 3:50:25 AM by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Reads well except for the part about insurance companies taking a lost last year. I want to see proof, as it flies in the face of other sources.


16 posted on 11/3/2009, 3:51:11 AM by Melas
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To: SeekAndFind

If my kids had talked like that, I would have made them pay all of their own bills. If they had voted for Obama, I would have cut them out of my will.


17 posted on 11/3/2009, 5:21:59 AM by Montanabound
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To: Red Boots

LOVE THAT!! YOUR DAUGHTER ROCKS!!

Signed,
A fellow homeschooler

:-)


18 posted on 11/3/2009, 5:28:00 AM by StarCMC (Sometimes you need a Jimmy Carter to get a Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Red Boots

My 9 year old son saw an anti-logging commercial on TV and told me they shouldn’t be cutting down those trees. I listed all of the things he would have to give up if we didn’t cut down trees. He was obvious conflicted by this news. Then I explained that new trees were planted after the old ones were cut. He said “cool” and went off happily to play.


19 posted on 11/3/2009, 6:14:42 PM by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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