OBAMA'S WAR PBS/FRONTLINE Documentary

PBS FRONTLINE ^

[DirtyHarryY2K]

Watch the Full Program Online

Warning: Graphic Language and violent imagery Viewer Discretion Advised.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/obamaswar/view/

[DirtyHarryY2K]

Got this link in an email, My son is a Marine currently deployed in the Helmand province Afghanistan.

If you want to see what the Hussein administration expects from our Marines, what amounts to getting them killed with suicidal stupid "rules of engagement" while he leaves them twisting in the wind and hung out to dry, watch this video..

[Izzy Dunne]

If you want to see what the Hussein administration expects from our Marines, what amounts to getting them killed with suicidal stupid "rules of engagement" while he leaves them twisting in the wind and hung out to dry, watch this video..

If I want to see them given a mission and only a few rules about how to get it done, and then celebrate them when it's over, what do I do?

[444Flyer]

Ping

[444Flyer]

Ping

[Eska]

I watched it a week or so back, pretty good; though it seemed to foster an attitude that Obama might like Americans to believe.

Bottomline, the Afgans out in those rural villages just want left alone; kinda the same as Vietnam in some ways. The Afgans had the attitude if I do what Americans tell me, the taliban will kill me; if I do what taliban say, the Americans will lay into me. I thought I heard one Afgan say, Americans should just go away; not that they liked the taliban any better either.

[tbpiper]

My son spent nearly a year in Mosul in 2003 and just got back from the Dyala province last August. Seeing Obama’s Dover AFB photo-op nearly made me puke. The boy president was having a great time playing soldier. I pray God protects our sons from this Gelding-in-Chief.

[oyez]

Just to think, the Democrats had a hissy fit when George Bush landed on that aircraft carrier wearing a flight suit.

[BigSkyFreeper]

I saw this Frontline episode 2 or 3 weeks ago. It was very good, and only echoes the complexities of the situation over there that McChrystal is talking about from a military point of view, as well from a political point of view. Obama is ignoring it for two reasons, first, he's inexperienced, and secondly, he doesn't like being told what he has to do.  Obama sees this as more of a political hot potato more than an opportunity for military achievement.

Obama is dithering I think because he's trying to see how he can exploit the situation for his own political expedience, while at the same time, creating a way to take credit for something he has no direct part in.

[roses of sharon]

U.S. Army Spc. Michael Riley, a radio traffic operator, smokes a cigarette while taking a break with fellow Soldiers during a dismounted patrol across the Tangi Valley in the Wardak Province of Afghanistan, Aug. 29, 2009. All Soldiers are assigned to 1st Platoon and 3rd Platoon, Apache Company, 2nd Battalion, 87th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division, (U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Teddy Wade / Released) Date Posted: 10/29/2009

[DirtyHarryY2K]

Obama is dithering I think because he's trying to see how he can exploit the situation for his own political expedience, while at the same time, creating a way to take credit for something he has no direct part in.

Or Hussein is a muslim and he wants islam to rule the planet. I'm inclined to believe the latter..

Obama Admits He Is A Muslim

[patriotspride]

” Obama is dithering I think because he’s trying to see how he can exploit the situation for his own political expedience, while at the same time, creating a way to take credit for something he has no direct part in.”

He’s also letting all the elections - Afghan, US, get out of the way so he let his spin doctors cook up the best message based on those results.

The Afghan situation didn’t play out, so now it’s what happens today that will form the approach.

It should be rather apparent that he delays to create advantage/take credit, or to deflect blame onto others

[DirtyHarryY2K]

U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Stephen Barnes continues with his mission even thought the crotch of his pants were ripped off during a dismounted patrol across the Tangi Valley in the Wardak Province of Afghanistan Aug. 29, 2009. Barnes is a squad leader assigned to 1st Platoon, Apache Company, 2nd Battalion, 87th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division. (U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Teddy Wade / Released) Date Posted: 10/29/2009

[BigSkyFreeper]

He’s a member of a lot of things: CFR, Freemasonry, and probaly Skull & Bones. Obama, like most politicians, is a conspiracy theorists wet dream.

[DirtyHarryY2K]

I don’t think a man who’sname is Barack Hussein Obama who admits the muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on earth” among other things like bowing to a muslim king and declaring the USA is one of the worlds largest muslim nations and refers to the “holy koran” is much of a “conspiracy” as it is a forgone conclusion and a simple fact to anyone able to think for themselves.

[mojitojoe]

I agree.

[Markos33]

Thanks for the ping, 444Flyer.
This was an eye opening video.

The conclusion I draw from this is that if
the Taliban is a proxy of the government of Pakistan,
then Pakistan needs to start paying the well deserved
consequences for their support of those who are killing Americans.

IMO, we should be at war with Pakistan.

My young nephew just graduated boot at Parris Island on 9, Oct., and he is now at Geiger in grunt school. There's little doubt that he'll end up in Afghanistan, soon.

[Yardstick]

Now that is a great war face.

[fishergirl]

May God bless your son and all of ‘em and keep them safe! It’s a damn shame that some of their worst enemies are in Washington.

[fishergirl]

Okay, I have to say it - damn, that’s a good looking man!!

[fishergirl]

My son had a few pairs of “crotchless” pants in Iraq from kicking in doors. He said the old DCU’s held up better. May God bless this dear soldier!

[roses of sharon]

My new desktop background:)

[roses of sharon]

But on a serious note, I should mention, that I am always scouring these pics for my bro...he is working in this Province in Afghanistan. (I thought he was in the orange hat at first)

[fishergirl]

He will be in my prayers! May God speed him safely home!

[444Flyer]

You're welcome Markos. You have a fine Nephew there. Please thank him for his Service. You are now a member of a Marine's family! May God bless and keep him safe.

[DirtyHarryY2K]

Thanks. I put some pics on my profile down close to the bottom. Pass along my thanks to your son as well.
God bless

[TexasNative2000]

Great pics on the profile page. Blessings and thanks to your son and daughter.

[DirtyHarryY2K]

Thanks.
God bless

[DirtyHarryY2K]

I don’t know if you’ve seen this or not. Its a good detailed report. You may want to ping your list to it.

[SandRat]

WOT Afghanistan

Warning: Graphic Language and violent imagery Viewer Discretion Advised.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/obamaswar/view/

[fanfan]

Bump for later.

Thanks.

Good luck with the elections tonight, Sandy.

USA, Baby, USA!

[Ben Ficklin]

"suicidal stupid riles of engagement"

If the US follows the Petreaus/McKrystal counterinsurgency(COIN) mission, those are the rule of engagement that you will have to accept.

If you don't like those rules of engagement, then you should support Biden's conterterrorism mission.

Those are your two choices: Counter-insurgency or Counter-Terrorism.

Also at the Frontline website on Obama's War, there are some interviews you should read.

First, the John Nagl interview. Nagl was Petreaus' advisor, "best and brightest". West Point and a Rhodes Scholar. An expert on counter-insurgency, he was a member of the team that rewrote the Army/Marine counterinsurgency manual that is being used in Afghan. Last Jan, Nagl became president of the think tank, Center for a New American Security(CNAS).

Second, the Andrew Exum interview. Exum was McKrystal's advisor and is now a Senior Fellow at CNAS.

Nagl replaced Michelle Flournoy who was co-founder and president at CNAS after she became Obama's Undersecretary of Defense for Policy which is the #3 civilian job at DOD. There were about 10-12 individuals at CNAS who went to work for Obama.

[DirtyHarryY2K]

We use to have bad ass American generals like Grant and Patton.

Now we have morons who blame themselves for the violence of our enemies.

No wonder we now have the George McFly military strategy.

Look, Its a simple problem. Islam wants to rule the planet, We gonna let them or not? Its not rocket science, a backwards bunch of goat herders in sandals with rudimentary weapons and little to no training at all are kicking our ass for one reason and one reason only, we’re letting them win because of our candy ass liberal kiddie gloves bleeding heart BS policy.

Take the gloves off and let the military do their job and the war will be over in a month. They’ll think twice before they attack us again.. Ask the Japanese, they’ll tell you.