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To: Seizethecarp
I also don't believe it can be stated with certainty that the illegitimate child of a bigamous marriage with a US citizen mother born on US soil, but with a foreign citizen father is or is not a “natural born citizen.”

So, even if Obama was originally a NBS, couldn't he have later been an Indonesian citizen and in adulthood become a naturalized US citizen? If dual citizenship can be proved over his lifetime, would this not make Obama ineligible to be POTUS?

Thank you in advance for your thoughtful opinion.

72 posted on 11/04/2009 10:52:20 AM PST by circumbendibus (Where's the Birth Certificate?)
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To: circumbendibus
“So, even if Obama was originally a NBS, couldn't he have later been an Indonesian citizen and in adulthood become a naturalized US citizen? If dual citizenship can be proved over his lifetime, would this not make Obama ineligible to be POTUS?”

SCOTUS in the Elg case ruled that the parent(s) cannot expatriate an NBC child and deprive the child of its NBC status by taking the child out of the country and obtaining citizenship for the child in another country. Only the NBC child himself or herself can affirmatively renounce US citizenship after obtaining age of majority.

It is not known whether (there is no confirmed evidence that) Obama ever renounced US citizenship to obtain either an Indonesian or Kenyan passport or if he was ever registered as a Kenyan citizen under the BNA of 1948.

It is widely claimed as a certainty in birther posts (and I consider myself an open-minded, truth-seeking constitutionalist which makes me a type of birther) that Obama “must” have had a foreign i.e. non-US passport to have traveled to Pakistan and Kenya in the early 1980’s and that Obama never had a US passport until very recently.

How do you "prove the negative" that Obama never had a US passport until recently and that he did not have one in the early 1980’s or even as a child? His mom worked in the US embassy in Indonesia where it would have been very easy to get one for him...if she had a US birth certificate for BHO II.

I see legal smoke and mirrors as far as the eye can see!

98 posted on 11/04/2009 12:54:47 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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