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To: Scanian
Conservative Democrats proposed the amendment, which passed, 240-194, late Friday as a way to break the impasse on the bill. Last night, 64 Democrats joined 176 Republicans in supporting the measure.

Republicans are stupid. They could have defeated the health care bill by not supporting that amendment.

3 posted on 11/08/2009 3:50:51 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
No, if the Admendment had failed, the bill still would of passed. The Demcorats would merely have been given a campaign ad to run against the GOPers in Conservative distiticts.

The Freeper “Political Stategists” are the stupid ones being unable to look at how that vote could be used to give an out to the Blue Dogs to excuse their having voted for this monstrosity.

5 posted on 11/08/2009 3:56:34 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: Always Right
They could have defeated the health care bill by not supporting that amendment.

I think many, if not all of the Blue Dogs are LIARS anyway. Nancy let them vote the way they did (39 against) because she didn't need the votes anyway.

You are assuming Blue Dogs would have shot down this bill because of the abortion provision -- that would have ratcheted up the stakes enough that Nancy wouldn't have allowed it. They would have fallen into line just like all the others, if it were crucial to passage of the bill.

(And you thought YOU were cynical ;) What I'm saying is true though!))

At any rate next year I have resolved to target all the BLUE DOGS since they are most vulnerable and are the least honest about where their sentiments lie.

6 posted on 11/08/2009 4:01:23 AM PST by zipper
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To: Always Right
Killing the Amendment was not going to kill the bill. That is an assumption by the Freeper Political Strategists clique that has no base in fact.

Don't get so wedded to your emotion based opinions that you ride a mistaken notion down in flames.

The leader of the blue dogs said he was voting FOR the bill regardless of how the amendment went. This was just posturing to give political cover back home for the blue dogs in 2010

IF the GOP had voted against it, the blue dogs would of still voted for the bill while blaming the GOP for the failure of anti Abortion amendment.

It was a no win position for the GOP.

9 posted on 11/08/2009 4:12:39 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: Always Right
Republicans are stupid. They could have defeated the health care bill by not supporting that amendment.

Exactly!

This was stooopid on the part of the Pubes because without a bill, there would have been nuttin to worry about anyway.

Additionally, IF anyone believes this provision won't be added back in, well I've got a nice __________whatever for sale, cheap!!!

I don't discount Stupak's strong beliefs or intentions, but I wonder after first proposed whether this was not seen by the Rats as a way to insure passage and couldn't the Republitards not have realized this???

11 posted on 11/08/2009 4:17:00 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: Always Right

Exactly. Republicans fell into their trap.

It was a stupid move, and they fell for it.

Not a brain in any of their heads.


19 posted on 11/08/2009 4:49:09 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Always Right

That goes to show that the pubbies care more about how their voting records are perceived in their right-leaning districts than about what is actually happening to the country.


21 posted on 11/08/2009 4:55:17 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Always Right
Republicans are stupid. They could have defeated the health care bill by not supporting that amendment.

Correct, and the people who claimed they had to vote for it were even worse. They were so damn dumb as not to think, there would not be 4,000 exceptions are clauses inserted in committee to make the abortion prevention loop hole land, if the senate approves a bill with it in.

23 posted on 11/08/2009 6:01:49 AM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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